That doesn't mean he did not have some of the fastest hands. It doesn't matter what people on this site know him as. I've seen plenty of fights of Patterson, Tyson, and Ali, and Holyfield can certainly be mentioned among them. He had elite handspeed during his period after entering the heavyweight ranks.
Please do not confuse the bulkier Holyfield, particularily after he took a short absence after his heart condition was put into question. Holyfield was a marvelous athlete, as a matter of fact he actually beat Carl Lewis in a charity event race, which I believe was 800 meters.
You don't know ****. You obviously have never seen him fight. If he wasn't fast, why did they call his left hook the "Evander Expander?" It's apparent that you've never even heard that before because you probably just started watching boxing a couple of months ago. Just so you can be informed though, Ali coined it because it was so fast that it expanded into a 3rd dimension. As in it was faster the speed of light! Evander's hands are so fast that you can barely even see them move. In fact, Sony's, Yushiro, who was the director of its LCD line said that the only way to actually see Evander Holyfield's hands would be with the use of his technology. Like I said, you just started watching boxing though. Every time Evander hit people it's like his hands weren't even moving. All you could hear was the sound of furniture breaking as his opponent took punishment.
I am talking about the Holyfield soon after he entered the heavyweight division. Such as his fights against Dokes or Douglas. As a matter of fact, Douglas was a common opponent for both Tyson and Holyfield. Now of course he was a different fighter when he faced Tyson, but if you were to watch or rewatch his fights against both Tyson and Holyfield you can get a glimpse at how close they were in handspeed. I would give the edge though, to Tyson. And yes, what I said about Lewis was true. Of course, if they were to both train for a 100 meter race during their peaks Lewis would smoke him; but for the 800 meter race at that particular time(they must have been around the same age) Holyfield did defeat him.
You've never heard of the Evander Expander, yet you're the great boxing analyst even though you've never been in a fight? And thanks for quoting my thread without saying anything. I guess Ali and Yoshiro have no ****in clue what they were talkin about. I guess they just pick a random guy and say his hands were as fast as lightening. How do you explain Holyfield's 5 punch combination speed? Maybe you oughta pick a new sport.
Holyfield absolutely had some of the fastest hands in HW history Problem is that people are basing their impressions of Holyfield on his fights from 94 on People are remembering the Michael Moorer fight in 94, the Lewis fights in 99, the Czyz fight, the Bean fight and thinking that was PRIME Holyfield Which is crazy Watch Holyfield's handspeed against Tillis and Thomas in 88 Or watch his fight against Michael Dokes in 89 Or even the first Bowe fight, Holyfield showed very fast hands Watch Holy's 15 punch combination against Foreman in Rd 7 of their fight Holyfield absolutely is right up there in terms of HW handspeed in his PRIME Even when a past prime Holyfield fought a past prime Tyson in 96, Holyfield's handspeed matched or arguably even exceeded Tyson in that fight He beat Tyson to the punch a lot that night However, I wouldn't say that Holyfield has the fastest hands in HW history Ali was faster Tyson at his peak in 88 was a bit faster But Holyfield absolutely has to be up there in terms of handspeed Again people are focusing way too much on the Holyfield post prime Or even worse using those fights against Ruiz, Byrd, or Donald Where you had a badly faded Holyfield And his shoulder was apparently a big problem for him, thus he had surgery on it in 2004 after the Donald fight, and then took a couple years off to recover But it is not ridiculous to say the Holyfield has fast hands for a HW - he absolutely did Not saying he's no 1, just that he deserves to be mentioned as being one of the best (top 15) in terms of handspeed
Patterson's 6 punch combination speed was fast, but not as fast as Holyfield's. And I guess Yoshiro who's considered a super genius, by the classification that they have in Japan, (although I seriously doubt you know anything about the intelligence section of the employement classification system in Japan), yet I guess he's a ****in idiot because some kid that has sex with dudes says so. And go ahead and put a vote out there. If you're gonna talk the talk, walk the walk. But first you should pay attention to what you're watching because obviously you don't know **** if you don't think Holyfield is rated in at least the top three as far as fastest hands of all time are concerned. Dudes hands are the fastest in the division right now, yet his handspeed is slow? atsch Go slap yourself.
Please, Sweet Pea, don't take him serious, the guy is foolin around and you are embarking on his childish, time-waisting game. Pardon me for any misunderstanding between us and I feel these threads are pointless..
This guy is ridiculous. He thinks if a guy isn't as fast as Zab Judah that he must not be fast. Note to Sweet Pea: Heavyweights aren't as fast as junior welters. Damn, he's dense.
Look, the whole forum is against you right now. You're embarassing yourself. Your hatred of Holyfield is blanately obvious and appalling. People are laughing at you right now because you've been exposed.