Aside from Ali , who beats Lennox?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Lewis did not move like Ali .No of course he didn't, he was considerably bigger ,and hit considerably harder!
    Lewis would decapitate Frazier.
     
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    He didn't say he wasn't! He was a bigger puncher than Frazier and so was Lewis.
    Frazier met one top drawer banger and got his head handed to him.
     
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  3. JohnThomas1

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    That's about it.
     
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    Good call on Witherspoon I could see that happening

    I think Liston, Foreman, Bowe, Louis and Holmes would have a good shot against Lennox. Lennox though was good enough on a given night to possibly beat anyone including Ali he was that good.
     
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  5. Seamus

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    A lot of "could have beaten Lennox" being mentioned.

    Who would you FAVOR to beat a prime Lennox?

    And again, because many of you forget what prime means, this means a fully trained, sharpened, top-level performing Lennox. perhaps the dynamo we saw against Ruddock and Grant or the controller we saw against Tyson and Tua.
     
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    Good post! Prime Frazier is always overlooked, he was a MACHINE!!!
     
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    Good answer but honorable mention Gullick and Moorer weren't one punch kos.
     
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  8. choklab

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    Lewis would not be landing first that's for sure. Look how Frazier was all over Ali like a cheap coat in the first round, he'd be like that with Lewis only Lewis won't have the whiskers for it.

    Frazier was a much better puncher than McCall or Rahman. He hit harder. And he threw a lot more power shots per round than they ever did.

    If Frazier found Alis chin as often as he did then he hits Lewis a whole lot more. Prime Frazier mind you. Not that ghost in Kingston.

    I can't help thinking you cannot get past the depleted Frazier with eye trouble that fought Foreman.
     
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  9. JohnThomas1

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    Lewis' power, size, uppercut, Frazier's in big trouble. Lewis could well blow him out.
     
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  10. Unforgiven

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    Ray Mercer is a fair call.
     
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  11. choklab

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    Maybe Kingston Frazier. Not Joe Frazier.

    Size never bothered Frazier in his prime. He beat down unbeaten buster Mathis and guys like Bonavena, Ramos, Quarry all hit very hard too.

    Lewis has a punchers chance but so does Joe. If it comes down to who has the best whiskers and who lands more often I believe Lennox comes up short.

    This guy beat Ali remember. The thread asks "aside from Ali who beats Lewis". Well Frazier DID beat Ali.
     
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  12. mcvey

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    The underlined is opinion not fact. Frazier according to you had the shortest prime of any heavyweight champion,he was washed up at 29. The age Ali was when he came back after nearly 4 years inactivity and ruined him. Lewis would uppercut Frazier and lift him up to the roof lights! Size never bothered Frazier in his prime?Which super heavyweights who could hit like Lewis did he beat?
    Ramos 208lbs
    Bonavena207lbs
    Quarry 197lbs

    Frazier fought one superheavy banger and got comprehensively thrashed ,TWICE!
     
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  13. Unforgiven

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    It's not surprising Frazier was past his best at 29. He'd had some tough fights.
     
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  14. mcvey

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    Witherspoon was too slow and open to beat Lewis.
     
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    Having tough fights means men were competitive with you,men like Quarry ,Bonavena,Mathis.Would they be competitive with Lewis?
     
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