Aside from Ali , who beats Lennox?

At the end of the day though, a fluke is more likley to be repeated than a perfectly executed boxing plan.

Lewis was always going to fail to duck vs a Ramhan type fighter.

Tyson was probably always going to loose to sombody like Douglas once his training became second priority, but it might have taken another year or two if Dougleas had not been around.

Louis and Foreman might just have had the misfortune to share an era with sombody who had the style to beat them, or came up with the corect boxing plan. Sugar Ray Robinson does not necisarily find a RAndy Turpin in any era.

 

I´d never said he would fight at a torrid pace, just at a higher one than Lewis would be used too. Not many fighters could stand up to Lewis punches, Baer could while still coming forward.
Louis hit him with multiple combination while fighting at a higher pace than Lewis would. Lewis didn´t through too many combination, he threw one hard punch at a time mostly. That´s not enough to get Baer out of there or to make him quit.
I can see Baer survivng Lewis in the beginning while making him move and work more than he is used to which leads Lewis to get more and more sloppy and in the end get hit by a punch he won´t get up from, probably far ahead on the card. IMO a likely outcome, not the most likely though.

 

Lol, This thread is nuts.. H2H Lennox beats Ali pretty bad.

Some of you guys need to think of H2H fights and not just answer on legacy.

 

You and I gotta stick together now, Rummy, because the haters just want us to go away. We can do this, man! We've just gotta stick to the water so their hounds don't catch our scent! :err

 

My most money would be on Holmes.

Louis could, Foreman could, Tyson could. Holyfield perhaps. Marciano has the power but I'd be worried about cuts.

No-one has an easy night. But these are the best of the best after all, right?

 

I agree

 

Holmes just might turn the trick better than Ali himself. He'd inflict more than the occasional strafing shot, which is what Ali would have to do to beat Lewis.

Outside of those two, I think the Bomber should also be favored, although he'd struggle with a prime, motivated Lewis.

 

It's a matter of perspective I think. I didn't rate him that highly as an active fighter, but I've come to appreciate him a lot more now that he's retired.

 

I,too,like Holmes over Lewis.Fact is old,past it Holmes beat Mercer far more convincingly than close to prime Lennox did.Lennox was susceptible to a heavy jab as shorter,lesser reached and slower than Holmes Mercer outjabbed Lennox for good portions of that fight.

 

:goodSUPERB AVATAR,MAN!!!!!!Cheers:good

 

You agree with me though, this is your own quote:

rahman and Oliver McCall both hurried Lewis into making a mistake or as you put it "mined an error" we are saying the same thing.

Lewis was forced outside of his comfort zone both times, agreed?

I know Lewis was not knocked out each time an opponent made him uncomfortable but he was noticeably more open and vulnerable in these situations.

Is it that outrageous to suggest a better fighter could not exploit a situation where one could "mine an error"?

 

The most important thing in these H2H match ups is we are talking about prime for prime. I would not consider Lewis at his best for either the McCall or Rahman fight.

 

When his game was on, and not complacent, passed prime or without steward in his corner, I think that very few fighters would have beaten him.. I'm talking about the Lewis from 1995-2000, ranging from the Tommy Morrision fight to perhaps the David Tua bout. If any all time great cought Lewis during this period and he took them seriously, he'd probably triumph against most.. Muhammad Ali, Tyson and MAYBE Holmes are the only ones who I'd pick to take him, but even those guys would have a good chance of losing.. A prime Holy would be a good match as well.