Ask the Doc: With steroid and HGH testing, is blood or urine best?

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  1. AMERICANBORN

    AMERICANBORN Active Member Full Member

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    An article from MMAjunkie.com with combat-sports specialist Dr. Johnny Benjamin. It's the most simple, uncomplicated breakdown of urine vs. blood tests that I have seen.

     
  2. Boxing Fanatic

    Boxing Fanatic Loyal Member banned

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    Shite I already knew, but, what most pac nut-huggers fail to realize.
     
  3. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    who cares what he thinks. the fight is off.
     
  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    stopped reading at "is Toronto about the coolest and sexiest city in the world?"

    **** no it isn't.
     
  5. AMERICANBORN

    AMERICANBORN Active Member Full Member

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    lol credabilty GONE
     
  6. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Never been there, but remember you said you were Canadian? I've heard Toronto is a great city. What don't you like about it? What city do you prefer in Canada? Montreal?

    I've actually thought about moving to live in Canada sometime in the distant future. But ****... the cold.
     
  7. theDUD3

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    why not just use that test if it's better than blood screening? oh, i forgot pbf wants blood.
     
  8. AMERICANBORN

    AMERICANBORN Active Member Full Member

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    thats strictly HGH, there are plenty other PEDs i believe, and pbf wants blood and urine
     
  9. theDUD3

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    yeah but the article states that "Blood screening is the current standard for detecting abnormally elevated levels of synthetic human growth hormone (HGH).", so it's practically does the same thing at a better detection rate.
     
  10. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bull****.

    The blood test for HGH has yielded ZERO positives. Great friggen return on investment.

    I've read that Dr. Caitlin says urine cannot detect Micera, well he was ****ing wrong. They've been detecting Micera for over a year. WADA had Roche Pharmaceutical, the maker of Micera, provide them with the molecules and samples of Micera in advance of its release. Apparently Dr. Caitlin and this tosser mma doctor are clueless to this fact.

    All I see is regurgitated stuff.
     
  11. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Much ado about nothing because using the current technology, meaning blood, to detect HGH, it never, ever, detected any athlete on HGH.

    When you say better, does it mean it is able to detect HGH users??? Don't tell me that for thousands and thousands of athletes tested with this method, not a single one is HGH positive?

    So it boils down to urine equally effective at detecting HGH as blood, meaning zero detection rate.
     
  12. Farmboxer

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    A urine test can even detect snoring!



    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8395732.stm

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    A urine test that can differentiate between dangerous and safe snoring is possible, say researchers at the University of Chicago.

    They looked at 90 children referred to a clinic to be evaluated for breathing problems in sleep, and 30 controls.

    A number of proteins were increased in the urine of the children diagnosed with dangerous snoring.

    The research is published in the American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine.

    The team say their findings need to be repeated but may lead to a simple test.

    Sleep tests

    The children all had standard overnight tests and some were classified as having obstructive sleep apnoea (OSA).

    ..........more
     
  13. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That blood test has the same drawbacks as the urine test for EPO, which is 48 hours, yet all the mother****ers get caught doping EPO and yet nothing for HGH.

    You smell something?
     
  14. DobyZhee

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    who profits from Pac getting blood tested..f'n pharmacuda companies. Motherf*cker holy mother mary of God...
     
  15. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, doh damn. If USADA got Boxing to convert by scare tactics, thats a new revenue stream.

    I don't know if people realize that they make big money doing this.

    I kid though...
     
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