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To hardcore canadiens:

When likely will Molitor make the jump to fight the other title holders in the division?

 

Can we rename this thread the mutual admiration society?

 

Why do people have issue with others being admired for their knowledge anyways? I used to pick Cross Trainer's brain, and I think it's GOOD to learn from others who know more, and certainly no harm in acknowledging their ability and efforts.

 

bernard on longevity and what he has accomplished is ranked top 5 on current form IMO no he is not a top p4p number 5 based on head to head with todays current fighters.

hopkins still has many things/

good defensivley/good at shutting down offensively/still has decent feet/great chin/

but the reason i say no is what hopkins currently brings to the table offensively.

a disguiesed right hand pot shot lead
a left hand shoulder barge and push off
the disguised right if it misses is followed with a lowered headbutt lead followed by a clinch.
a few shoe shine punches push offs on the inside.
good at setting traps v plodders for his right hand lead.
vast experience.
looks to nick rounds in his head calculating to much instead of letting his hands go.

personally i disagree with how p4p rankings are done, i would like them to be more fluid and based how have you preformed for me latley rather than you are in this position because of your name.

i mean diaz/cotto/williams/calderon type fighters if you scaled them up to light heavy IMO they would beat hopkins.

best analogy i can come up with for my arguement is take the hopkins of say 10 years ago of 1998 and put him in with the number 2 rated hopkins of today according to greg leon and IMO the unreanked 1998 hopkins beats the 2008 hopkins 10 times out of 10.

he had workrate/variety/power/planted his feet/walked through anything to get his own off/feet speed/intensity/let his hands go/.

yet this version of hopkins was not rated and todays version of hopkins is very high for what he currently brings to the table.

p4p rankings have always been biased like this though , just IMO it is done on legacy and does not take into account what fighters have lost.

 

bute against mundine

i see bute winning this fight even in australia.

i still think people are sleeping on bute.

he is a very big super middle and mundine will be a small man next to him.

mundine has excellent footwork/ nice sneaky keft anbd right keads, is imitating roy jones more and more in every fight in his manerisms and the way he fights.

i was impressed with munidine in the green fight especially.

i liked the way after he got his confidence he stayed in the pocket way more than i have seen him and used his combinations and handspeed to easily outbox green while watching for counters at the same time.

nice sharp fast combos and green was befuddled.

again v solimon he planted his feet and did a number on solimon.

but i dont know against bute.

mundine has faster hands but , butes are plenty quick enough to land.

if i was advising team bute i would advise them to jump on mundine from the opening bell take ring center and refuse to back up making mundine go around the ring perimiter , looking for openings .

mundine has power but does not sit down on anything until he beleives he has his opponent softned up.

i am still not sure about mundines mindset in against a fighter like bute who will use pressure/size/workrate/jab, to make mundine work for all 12 rounds.

i just think mundine will still just think to much in the ring instead of just letting his hands go and be prepared to take shots in order to get his own off.

its always my biggest ? when trying to analyse mundine fights.

you are never 100% sure what mundine will turn up.

the negative fighter of the echolls/siaca/kessler fight or the confident mundine of the solimon and green fights.

and in my head visulising this fight i think bute has the atrributes to make mundine negative in this fight which is why i have picked against him.

 

bute v kessler

already said butes attributes
kesslers are obvious

he has a great jab/fast hands/power/good hand eye cordination, is the picture perfect textbook boxer that i have ever seen.

drawing up a boxing manuel of pictures of how to deliver punches you just do photos of kessler.

i think bute makes this cometitive/his size/workrate stamina all match up well with kessler , but i see kessler as being a little to precise/accurate and kessler being the ring general and think kessler will win a closish entertaining fight on the cards.

bute v dawson.

i will reserve judgement until after the johnson fight.
i think everybody has jumped aboard the dawson bandwagon to early.

bute has been tested being whacked on the chin by berrio a legit world class banger with genuine and proven 1 punch ko power at the top level.

dawson has barley taken a punch in his last 4 fights yet been down twice.

skillwise dawson is technically superior to bute, about the same sped, dawson is fast handed but not lightning and so is bute.

dawson has better legspeed than bute to get in and out.

personally i think dawson is the real deal and has great abilty and could beat bute , but the johnson fight will be the fight to tell us if dawson is going to be around as an undefeated fighter for a long time.

its a fight i beleive dawson will outbox johnson with sone ease , but johnson at some stage will have success and it is then we will find out if dawsons chin is up to the mark.

johnson is an accumilation puncher and has no one punch power so we will know the grade of dawsons chin afterwards.

 

Well in mate :rofl

 

froch v mundine.

mundine will box his head off , frochs defense is non exsistent and his speed is not half of what froch thinks it to be.

but froch has a very good chin and has real power in both hands and with many punches, his uppercut being his favouirite.

only takes 1 punch v the sturdiest of chins from froch and he puts you down.

so mundine would have to fight the perfect fight.

good for mundine froch relies on his power and does not have a high workrate allowing mundine to fight at hois pace and pick froch of and get away again.

mundine on points lopsided.

kessler v froch.

kessler`s jab would have abn absolute field day of frochs face and he would land right hands at will as well and there is only so far and many froch could absorb before his chin begins to crack.

kesslers jab would brake up frochjs rythem and timing, he would not be able to get his feet set for his power punches and he would be discouraged and ko`d around 6 to 10.

kessler ko win.

 

He has never uttered the name of anybody to be fair. He has always fought who got put infront of him. But he has fought good comp and stepped it up with Mosley last time. If Arum made the fight Cotto would have no problem fighting Floyd.

Floyd know's that if he doesnt fight Cotto and perhaps Williams, but definatly Cotto. There will always what if Floyd had fought Cotto.... He is the best known, best in the ring (Top 5 p4p and a WW champ) and he would proved Floyd with his best test.

 

What are you talking about? People were saying he needed to fight Judah or Baldomir or De La Hoya? Cotto is a p4p fighter, Hatton may have been p4p top 10, when he fights at 140 before that fight, but he is bottem 1/2 of top 10 at 147.

Miguel Cotto is a 2 weight world champion. Who is the number 2 welterweight and a top 5 p4p fighter. To fight an old inactive De La Hoya who you have already beaten and not him? :-(