At 145 just watch Zab judah vs Floyd Mayweather and if the same floyd..

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  1. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    PBF didn't respect Jab at all for that fight. He was walking him down the whole time looking to break him which he did. PBF left himself more open in that fight then most as he didn't show any respect for Jab and was focusing more on offense. As he knew Judah folds under pressure.

    He isn't going to look to do that vs Pacman as he knows Pacman has way more heart then Judah. He is going to instead look to frustrate Pacman allow him to make mistakes and capitalize on them.

    PBF also had Judah ready to go until he hit him with that low blow and got his needed rest and extended the fight. If he did resort to purposely low blowing him he would have been sent to the canvas or at least taken a knee.

    Judah also way more reach then Pacman.
     
  2. Boxing Fanatic

    Boxing Fanatic Loyal Member banned

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    What u got like 475 posts. Been here on ESB since 2005. I've been in this game for 24 years. My predictions for major fights and even the minor ones here on ESB is houdini-like. U gotta try harder than that, newbie.:lol:
     
  3. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    looking back at it floyd did a great job at taking down and breaking down an opponent who was faster and sharper than him for the first four rounds. make no mistake, the last eight were all mayweather but in given the 3 of the first 4 to zab and at least the 12th, zab takes four rounds and has a knockdown to his credit. true not THAT close but if zab could have continued that pace, who knows? (course if zab could have done that he wouldn't have been zab).

    Note: I'm not discounting floyd's ability to take zab out of his game but i still give zab most of the credit for that out of frustration
     
  4. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In what way is Judah a harder match up? Stylistically he isn't and Pacquiao has edges in power, speed, footwork, punch output, chin, stamina, heart and so on.
     
  5. Jab_hard

    Jab_hard Active Member Full Member

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    Zab was bigger than Floyd, had longer reach and had far better technique than Pac.
     
  6. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    almost all the way you're right. almost. zab is still faster than pac
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Zab has longer arms, has a better jab, throws one shot faster, more accurate and with more power than Pac, he picks his shots better, he's more of a natural counter-puncher. Those are the reasons why. This kind of educated pressure that Zab applies is more effective than just coming in at him balls to the wall and not working behind a jab or looking to counter. It doesn't matter that Pac is a better fighter than Zab his style matches up better than Pac's.
     
  8. Alo2006

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    His gloves did touch the canvas, but he wasn't hurt at all. After that punch, Mayweather came right back at Judah. This fight didn't show Pac could beat Mayweather at all. That Judah was very sharp in the first 4 rounds. What u and other *******s don't realize is, Mayweather pressed Judah the whole fight. His stradegy may not be the same with Pac. He simply knew Judah's weakness and exposed him for it. Once again, u all assume Mayweather has no chin, and think Pac will KO him :rofl:nono Won't happen buddy.
     
  9. Jorodz

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    good post pimp:good people forget how well zab fought at FIRST. it's a style that pac has never emulated. when he fought someone as skilled as marquez he tried to be measure but marquez was able to time him frequently and counter him brilliant. zab is better at what you called "educated pressure"
     
  10. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    How many times have we heard this before :lol:
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Thanks your was on point as well.:good Educated pressure is the key to beating PBF and Pac doesn't have that style.
     
  12. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Really, Judah just magically stops fighting after 4 rounds in every fight? It has nothing to do with his opponent? You ever think his production dropped against Cotto because he got hit with a couple of vicious low blows and was getting his ass kicked? How the hell is Judah able to win any fights if he just simply stops throwing after 4 rounds? Judah does not have great stamina, but it's not that bad. Besides, he wasn't even throwing many punches and any of those rounds against Mayweather period. To say it had nothing to do with Mayweather is just plain ignorant.
     
  13. Jorodz

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    for me, it's a combination. judah's natural tendancy to stop throwing punches and become retiscent along with floyd's ability to make him fight his fight, slow the battle down to his pace and time judah accordingly. it was both of them. if floyd didn't do it then it would have been closer, even a draw but likely floyd would have gotten to him eventually. otherwise it would have been a ***** of a fight. either way it's similar to what duran did to leonard, force him into the fight he wanted. floyd just had a little help from judah
     
  14. Taylor_brogdon

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    I gave Zab the first 4 with a KD also the 12th.
     
  15. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Front runner means he can dish it out but he wont be there when you start firing back .. If you let a fighter like jab get off he will continue to get off until, One He Knocks you out or 2 he gives u beating and he win by discussion.

    Floyd took the fight out of Zab , by dictating the pace of the fight. He made zab punch when he didn't want to punch and used his defense to stay on top of Zab and stay in range to pressured Zab with combo to the head and body, while avoiding taking punishment himself..

    Zab will stay in the fight and deliver his own punishment if you don't learn to control his movement.. Look Cotto face compared to Floyd who stayed directly in front of Zab the whole fight coming forward.