At 147: LEONARD/HEARNS/DURAN vs TRINIDAD/DE LA HOYA/MAYWEATHER

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  1. DINAMITA

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    Who were the greater welterweight trio?
     
  2. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Clearly, the first one.

    Because of Leonard and Hearns.
     
  3. lillarry

    lillarry Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Come on, theres only one legitimate answer
     
  4. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    The first one.

    All-time welterweight rankings of the 6.

    Leonard is first, despite having less time at 147 than Tito, he owns wins over greats like Duran, Benitez, and Hearns. Trinidad probably makes it 2nd due to longevity, although he had his share of weak-ish opposition, he reigned for awhile and beat some undefeated contenders in Carr and Campas and was the first to beat Pernell Whitaker controversy-free, and then came the debatable win over De La Hoya. I'll say Tommy comes in third, although I think he wins head-to-head against Trinidad. He had a couple wins over some contenders or fringe contenders on the way up, and then dominated long-time titleholder Pipino Cuevas, before losing a good close fight with Leonard a year later. Certainly that was no loss to be ashamed of, Hearns showed some of his great versatility in defeat. I'll say DLH comes in fourth with a 9-2 record. One of his two losses was controversial, but so were two wins. He faced some excellent opposition during his time there. Duran's win over Leonard was great, but his loss was disgraceful. Duran also had a very good win over Palomino and beat a solid fighter in Monroe Brooks. If someone wants to switch places and put Duran above DLH, I won't argue. I think they're interchangable. Mayweather comes last with his 4 fights at 147.



    1. Leonard
    2. Trinidad
    3. Hearns
    4. De La Hoya
    5. Duran
    6. Mayweather
     
  5. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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  6. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Duran would've beaten any of the other group as well.
     
  7. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, possibly, but I don't consider him greater (at 147) than Oscar or Tito.
     
  8. birddog

    birddog Active Member Full Member

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    Duran would have beaten Tito and mayweather no dout at 147. I also think we would most likely get to Hoya in the latter rounds also (if not a tko would beat him up). Add Benitez into the mix also from the 80's.

    Benitez v Tito Benitez ud12
    Benitez v Hoya Benitez d 12
    Benitez v PBF I don't know

    Oh first one obviously, match them up against eo one on one.
     
  9. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    no brainer. first one of course.
     
  10. El Matador

    El Matador Your Boxing Authority Full Member

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    Gotta go with the Leonard/Hearns/Duran trio.
     
  11. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Damn, typed in a really intricate answer and accidently deleted the whole thing. Anyway, let me try and remember the original point.:cool:

    I will seperate Leonard as the mere mention of his name gets us all doey-eyed and nostalgic and as he has achieved boxing god status which leaves Duran and Hearns who are a lot more human. I will seperate Mayweather from the list because I feel he didn't extend himself to the limit like the other Atg's in the list in terms of competition and risk. Which leaves the question to be rephrased; Were Duran and Hearns better ATG's than DLH and Tito? I would say they are somewhat equal. If I am not mistaken Hearns matched DLH in "accomplishments" but proved to have a glassier chin if you can get within his range. Tito is a puncher like Hearns but does not have his range of boxing ability. DLH can be very ferocious like Duran but tires if he's having a bad hair day and like Duran well be remembered as a lighter weight fighter when they were at their peak. What these four have in common is that they were gods who went too high up in weight and took their losses and their knock outs. At welterweight I would say its a toss up with Hearns coming out as favorite.
     
  12. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    The only match up out of that 90's group to have a chance with anyone out of the old school Group would possibly be Trinidad over Duran. But thats just me.