At 147 who should be favored over Tommy Hearns?

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  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pater you should seriously watch more Hearns, then you might not lose every fight despite your anorexia
     
  2. PowerPuncher

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    Walker hasnt fought a puncher near Hearns at WW, were talking about possibly the hardest hitting WW of all time and you dont think getting hit in the face by him would hurt?
     
  3. mcvey

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    Walker walked through the punches of serious hitters like Leo Lomski and Paul Berlenbach ,light heavy bangers , he came forward, into the guns of
    Max Schmeling for 8rds , but Hearns is going to stop him?
    I don't see it.
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I dont think Trinidad's chin is any too sturdy myself.
     
  5. Axl_Nose

    Axl_Nose Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That doesnt mean he'll do the same thing to Hearns .. A lot of you guys love the romanticised old stories of fights, im the same, ive got a book called 'In This Corner' and Walker is an absolute hero, i love the guy .. But as a betting man, if you put him in against Sugar Ray Leonard, then Leonard is going to do whatever he wants to do with Walker .... You old-school romantics need to get some reality ..
     
  6. Axl_Nose

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    I see what your saying, but like i say 'Punching Technique' has changed .. Its not about comparing Schmelling to Hearns in 1 punch power, Ruiz was a far harder puncher than Jones Jr, it didnt matter .. Hearns undoubtebly would have landed on Walker, Hearns had speed, had a great jab and was a killer finisher ..... Schmelling wasnt the 'killer' that Hearns was at Welter, Hearns attacked from the first bell .. Walker was a brilliant fighter but styles make fights and Hearns could have landed on Walker early to get him in trouble ..

    Im glad we have got on to a serious debate in Walker v Hearns than a ludicrous one in Tito v Hearns ....

    Remember, im only seeing a way in which Hearns could beat Walker, i can see how Walker could beat Hearns too .. We are talking about a mythical matchup that could possibly see a 5 fight series going 2 to Walker - 2 to Hearns and 1 Draw .. Thats how close 'mythical matchups' become at this level .. But Hearns would not need a baseball bat, like one poster said, Hearns was a brilliant fighter at 147 that would have given anybody in that division huge problems ..
     
  7. natonic

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    I'd favor the two Sugar Rays. I can't see a sharp Duran (Palomino, Leonard I) getting blown out but I wouldn't favor him. I'd give Gavilan and Napoles a decent shot but wouldn't favor them. I rate Napoles higher than Tommy at 147 but have stylistic concerns. Napoles was good enough to have a lower guard but Tommy's jab was so sharp and fast (not to mention his right hand). I think one guy with the style, legs, and discipline to possibly outflank Tommy would be Luis Manuel Rodriguez. But still, I don't think I'd quite favor him.
     
  8. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl

    I watch plenty of Hearns. Maybe you should watch some more of the guys we are discussing?

    And I dont have anorexia or lose every fight.
     
  9. Axl_Nose

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    Cuevas ?? Did Tito ever in his whole career fight a guy of the calibre of Cuevas ??
     
  10. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So Walker's chin and Cuevas' chin are 'pretty much' equivalent? :lol:
     
  11. heehoo

    heehoo TIMEXICAH! Full Member

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    Besides Sugar Ray Leonard, Barbados Joe Walcott would knock Tommy out in the first round. Hearns had a very weak chin, while Walcott fought heavyweights, took punches from said heavyweights like they weren't ****, and knocked them out.

    Also, to all of you pseudo experts/historians on here who gave me **** on here last time for expressing this opinion, **** all of you to hell. Your opinion ain't worth the **** that comes out my fat ass as far as I'm concerned.
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  12. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    McVey, Hearns was a tremendous punching Welterweight with not too sturdy a chin...Of course if he landed flush on Mickey Walkers chin, he could certainly hurt Walker...But you made a great point....Walker faced Leo Lomski, and murderous punching Paul Berlenbach, both bigger and heavier hitters than a lighter Hearns,and survived and conquered, both men...Besides Walker was as strong as a bull, as Tommy Milligan of Britain discovered in 1927...Walker too rugged for Hearns...
     
  13. bodhi

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    He was only anywhere neat his prime two weightclasses above his best weight, after 11 rounds of punishment against an atg. I think his chin is prettty sturdy.
     
  14. mcvey

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    Except for punching technique changing ,I broadly agree with your post,and am a big fan of Hearns.
     
  15. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That has nothing to do with "romanticising" old fighters. Perhaps you are the one romanticising newer fighters? Bu nice way to discredit the opinions of others.


    Can you give me an example of how Hearns uses a different punching technique with his right hand than Schmeling.

    And who said Hearns can't beat Walker? Of course he can. I just think Walker has better chances.

    Cuevas was good but not of the highest calibre we are talking here. I would say DLH was better than Cuevas but then Tito should have lost that one.