at 33, would Deontay Wilder be able to come back from a bad loss?

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  1. Oakland Billy Smith

    Oakland Billy Smith Active Member banned Full Member

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    Not just his age, but there's really no opponent at HW besides AJ...
    If Wilder picks up a loss, would there be enough competition out there for him to work his way back?
    Or would a convincing loss at this point in Deontay's legacy pretty much ruin his career and legacy?
     
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  2. minemax

    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes. He could continue knocking out bums. :smile:
     
  3. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All depends how bad a loss it were really,sure he beat Ortiz but Fury or AJ should be a level above.
     
  4. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol never thought I’d say this but Wilders opposition looks Stella compared to Millers.
     
  5. HerolGee

    HerolGee VIP Member banned Full Member

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    the question ought to be, can his career recover from knocking out bums and hasbeens?

    computer says no.
     
  6. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If he loses to Fury and the rematch should he take it then he loses any hope of fighting Joshua anytime soon. Fury, Whyte, Usyk and even Miller if he picks up the WBA regular belt would all be ahead of the queue along with Pulev due to his mandatory status.

    Without the belt he loses any leverage and much of his marketability, a lot of his US fans would probably jump ship to the Miller bandwagon in the hope he can become undisputed champ and beat Joshua.

    How his career progresses would be reliant on if Haymon still sees value in him and if Haymon can move him into a mandatory spot. He definitely falls back into the pack but even as an ex champ his name has some value and he could still make decent money but he'd have to put his tail between his legs and be willing to work with Hearn. A fight with Whyte could still be marketable as they've had a ton of beef and Whyte/Parker did well so no reason why Whyte/Wilder couldn't be even bigger and make them both a good payday.

    As for his career and legacy, it's not like he has much of a career or legacy to date. If he beats Fury then he definitely goes up in some peoples estimation and has a deeper record but he would still be a clear number 2 of the division, though that would change if he loses to anyone else who's not Joshua.
     
  7. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Come back....to what?
    He hasn’t risen high enough for this question to be asked. He wouldn’t have a title anymore but that’s about the only difference.
     
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  8. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There is definitely a way back for Deontay Wilder if he loses the first fight to Tyson Fury. Firstly there is the rematch and then there are challenges for other titles.

    There is the fact he is a former WBC world champion with 7 successful defences.

    He is the only US HW active as a former world champion, and would be in for a shot against whoever holds the belts. By then AJ would have most likely lost one or more of his belts and that would be open for a challenge.

    Deontay Wilder will still have a great future and because he keeps himself in such great shape and hasnt loaded up lots of muscle on his frame, can still be competitive/successful/agile into his late 30s. Thats very important in terms of longevity. He also hasnt taken any punishment other than that wobble against Ortiz.
     
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  9. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    He would simply return to knockout a bum cab driver and then exclaim

    "I'm BACK baby"
    "Can't hold me down"
    "AJ where you at"
    "BAAAM Sqwaaad"
     
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  10. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Ofcourse he can. 1 embarrassing defeat to a not yet ready Tyson Fury and he will be a laughing stock, he can wave goodbye to his career as a PPV player and have zero leverage to try tempt a quick return to world title fights. However take a few wins over higher ranked fighters and he will be knocking on somebodys door as a mandatory. But an embarrassing loss would pretty much be the proof for all those that think he has been nothing more than a very protected paper champion who cant cut it fighting the best so even if he got a mando shot the chances are he gets beat again.

    He should just stick to what he is doing now, facing bums or the crippled or the old and sickly whilst avoiding Joshua like the plague whilst pretending its actually the other way round.
     
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  11. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He's got to many delusional people around him to not continue either way. His entire team is incompetent from Breland to Haymon and anyone in between but Finkel who kept him at bay away from legit threats until recently.....

    I expect a Wilder loss , between stupidity, lies and deception being filled in Wilder s head probably comes to an end after December 1st.

    I had Fury winning , now th at i found the last smoking gun in putting Fury at 65% chance of winning!
     
  12. The Long Count

    The Long Count Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What legacy. At 33 he has the softest resume as any hyped fighter i’ve seen at that age.
     
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  13. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Come back from what?
    There's nothing to come back from.
     
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  14. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    You talk to your computer Herol? :eek:
     
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  15. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    The biggest thing about Deontay taking a big embarrassing loss to Fury would be his mental state. He fully believes he is the baddest man on the planet, numero uno, hes had his managers blowing smoke up his ass for 40 fights, he actually believes most top heavyweights are ducking him and it because he is the man and prob unbeatable. Look how he doesnt even seem to notice he is constantly getting outboxed and losing rounds, he is just happy to keep going till he gets his knockout, no sweat, inevitable.

    How will a schooling or getting knocked by Fury affect his mentality. That false aura of invincibility will be gone, that care free "i will get you sooner or later" attitude may be gone and hes not going to start knucking down and learn a bit of Boxing now. I think a good pasting will bring him right back to reality and we may just see him fade into oblivion.
     
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