At 35 Golovkin beat Canelo on pure technical ability

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  1. Nay_Sayer

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    Seeing as Foreman fought at HW and Alvarez is a blown up jr MW, is this such a surprise?

    It's clear that YDKSAB...
     
  2. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Then you need to get your eyesight checked. Or actually, you don't, but you do need to stop your bias hatred of that man. Nobody else saw that, but you. Why lie to yourself?

    The truth will set you free.

    I don't know if I can agree with you that Canelo was the better counterpuncher because he didn't do enough of it.
     
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  3. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    No you do. I didn't see a "pressure-counter puncher". You guys go too far far with your nonsense.
     
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  4. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can't always work people like that. It's stupid to do so. When you have a guy as dangerous as Canelo is on the ropes and going backwards, you can't just rush in. Sr. never rushed in either. He did give guys opportunities because he was wary of counterpunches, plus it's a good idea as a stalker to let your opponent throw a punch and move around, so you can counter them.

    That's exactly what Chavez Sr. did. He would corner people, let them throw a punch, and look for counters. That's exactly what GGG did with the exception of when he was throwing his jab.

    I mean, what do people watch? I feel like people really have no idea what boxing is.
     
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  5. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe you're an idiot. Have you been tested?
     
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  6. Gil Gonzalez

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    My favorite moments were when he went forehead to forehead with Canelo in the center of the ring. Such a boss.
     
  7. tinman

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    At 35 Chavez Sr looked like total dog pis.
     
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  8. Brighton bomber

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    No Golovkin got the decision based on work rate and aggression not by being the better technical fighter. Canelo showed better skills and technique.

    Canelo landed more power punches according to compubox, that's right the supposedly more defensive fighter landed more power punches. While the supposed aggressor and puncher landed fewer power punches. And Canelo didn't do this by throwing more power punches, he threw less, which means his accuracy was greater, which says to me Canelo was better in this regard.

    Canelo showed he was by far the better counter puncher and defensive fighter, he usually punished GGG when he missed while Golovkin found it very hard to do the same. Too often when Canelo did miss big, he wasn't in a position to counter back.

    For long periods the fight was fought with Canelo taking control of the centre of the ring, not Golovkin as we are used to seeing. For all of Golovkin's supposed ability to cut off the ring he didn't find himself in the position of having his opponent prone on the ropes anywhere near as often as were used to. That suggests to me Canelo out maneuvered Golovkin in regards to footwork. Not what I was expecting at all.

    Canelo when choosing to trade with GGG, more than held his own, he just didn't have the work rate and stamina to sustain that level of action unlike Golovkin, so was forced to disengage when he had punched himself out. Golovkin simply outworked Canelo which is why most thought he won, not because he was more accurate, more economical, was better technically etc.
     
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  9. Southpawswitch

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  10. tinman

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    Canelo was clearly the younger and more physically athletic fighter. And yet he still fought GGG's fight. He still got jabbed to death and outpointed. Why did this happen? Because GGG used his skills to nullify the physical advantages of the younger fighter.
     
  11. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

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    Okay "pressure counter puncher". That was an idiotic statement. I saw a pressure volume puncher who missed a lot of shots, got countered and was timid when having a gassed guy on the ropes but I'm the idiot. Even these agenda pushers agree. Carry on loser. This is boxing, not wwe and g is not john cena. Some of you are really pathetic.

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  12. tinman

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    "He didn't impress me". Yea and Kellerman has also publicly stated that he believes GGG is past his prime because he's 35. Which is just basically the point of the thread. How did GGG outbox a guy who clearly has the physical advantages?
     
  13. UnleashtheFURY

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    LOL. You just failed an IQ test dumbass!
     
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  14. yeyo monster

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    Dismantled? Stop smoking that pipe! It was a super close fight and canelo was the better! Deal with it fan boy
     
  15. Brighton bomber

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    Shorter guy got out jabbed by the taller fighter hardly a big shock or unexpected. You say GGG overcame Canelo's physical advantages through technique? But ignore GGG's clear physical advantages. Bigger, hit's harder, better work rate, stamina, probably stronger too.

    So what technique's did GGG use to actually overcome Canelo? Better footwork? Nope a lot of the fight was fought with Canelo taking control of the centre of the ring not Golovkin. Golovkin prefers to usually take the centre and force his opponents to the ropes, this didn't happen anywhere near as much as previous fights.

    How about, punch accuracy? Nope Canelo was more accurate.

    Better defence? Nope Canelo made Golovkin miss more than he missed.

    Combination punching? Nope Canelo landed the better combinations.

    Jab, there I agree. Golovkin does have a very good jab and it was key to him being able to out land Canelo as Canelo landed the more power punches. Without that jab he would of been out landed. Golovkin's relied heavily on the jab as he wasn't able to land with the same level of accuracy with his other shots.