At last! a new Harry Greb Book!

Yes ,both him and Langford came from Nova Scotia

 

Theproblem is with the price of a lot of these boxing books ... I believe the Gan's book is over $ 40.00 U.S. and that's a hell of a lot for any book. I've seen several other boxing books with very steep price tags as of late ...

I read the Langford book and enjoyed it very much. A lot of great information in it.

 

i dunno man he lived in the u.s. when he won the title and dies there.


it's like in th ebrit forum when they try to say fitz was british....jsut to add to the world champion stock.

 

Anybody else find the irony in a poster named Jack Dempsey talking about the new Harry Greb book?

After all, this book did beat up on the Dempsey book in sparring...and never got a title shot after that...hmm, suspicious

 

What kind of mistakes are there on the site, major, minor ones that can be contentious?

I'll probably read this one, but finish YOURS' soon.

 

Some major some minor but as my goal all along has been to have a definitive account of Harry's life I decided not to rush it and do it right. It only makes my book stronger to have the other guy come out with his full of mistakes and shoddy research first and then release mine after. As for price mine will be considerably cheaper than 40 dollars, somewhere around 25 - 29 and have TONS more photos (close to 1000) in addition to being around 600 or so pages.

 

What do people think of the old Greb biography 'Give Him To The Angels"?

 

When is your book dew?

 

Sooner or later every author has to set a deadline. If you have 1000's of first hand accounts, that is more than 99% of the other boxing books out there.

 

true but its more important in Greb's era when newspaper decisions were the rule and not the exception. You need to have as many account as possible to be fair to both fighters.

 

Newspaper reads on close fights can go either way. I suppose you can score the controversial decisions by tallying up the newspapers that sent reporter to the fights.

I suppose Pittsburgh, Cleveland, and Philly might be pro Greb, while east coast and west coast papers might be more neutral.

 

I dont know why Cleveland or Philly would have been pro Greb. Even in Pittsburgh some papers were antagonistic toward Greb, particularly the Press whose boxing columnist was a complete ass in general and hated Greb in particular. I think you would find that for the most part papers whether they were Pittsburgh papers, LA papers, of New York papers were pretty neutral for the most part. Besides Greb made it fairly easy because usually won by such a ridiculously wide margin that any guy who voted against him would have been laughed out of his job. Occasionally you get funny reports that dont seem to jive one way or the other but for the most part you can get a pretty good read on whats going in. You have to do your homework and find out which papers were aligned with which promoter etc. oddly enough often times in the midwest you find papers whose boxing writer WAS THE PROMOTER and even more stange is that fact that those guys USUALLY seemed to have the most even handed accounts. Figure that one out.

I would also add that even today newspaper articles or even rd by rd internet reports can go either way in close fights. Thats sort of the point. It just reinforces how close a fight is. Hell even with a definitive judges decision in a close fight in this day and age you still have people who say "so and so deserved the decision not the guy who won" I do too. I dont always agree with judges decisions or newspaper decisions. the important thing is that they are in the historical record to show that there is dissenting opinion. Ive tried very hard to illustrate this in my book. If a Greb fight was close and there was room for discussion whether I thought Greb won or not you can bet I make it clear.

 

I find that Amazon is expensive to begin with but after 6 months or so, you can buy the boking books fairly cheap second-hand through the merchants.

 

Pre-order from Amazon for $39.95

 

Joe Gans book is available, at last.

Table of Contents

Acknowledgments v
Preface 1

1. A Marvel of the Ring 5
2. Battle Royal 11
3. Boxing in 1900 Baltimore 20
4. Ghosts in the House 30
5. Straight Hitting 35
6. Saving an Eye, Losing a Title 53
7. Fixed Fight in Chicago 63
8. Long Road Back 82
9. Bringing Home the Bacon 89
10. Defending the Championship: A Gentleman and a Gladiator 97
11. Stolen Title 109
12. Boxing Moves West 125
13. Forays at Welterweight 141
14. Epic Battle in the Nevada Desert 152
15. The White Plague 180
16. A Dream Deferred, a Dream Realized 193
17. Good Night, Sweet Prince: Fighting in the Shadow of Death 202
18. The Old Master’s Legacy 227
19. In the Words of Peers and Scholars 233
20. Final Rounds 243

Epilogue: Boxing’s Continued Popularity 250
Appendix: Ring Record 257
Chapter Notes 265
Works Cited 277
Index 281