At least Wilder didn't spit out his mouthpiece and quit

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder wasn't "embarrased" twice. Fury was embarrassed twice in the first fight when he found himself on his back.

    Enough already.
     
  2. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree he fought the best, he fought him because he was inactive and coming back from his problems (which I think were overstated to hide his failed test results) but he fought him for those reasons, he honoured the rematch and fair play to him for that, he clearly lost the first fight, but I must admit that I was probably edging towards him winning the rematch as I thought he would eventually get a shot on fury and he we all know about his power.
    He fought the best this is true but he turned out to be the best, Joshua had three belts he dangled in front of him and the opportunity to become undisputed and he wasn’t interested, because Joshua was seen as a threat. When he signed up to fight fury he wasn’t even close to being regarded as the best he was considered washed up and stupid for taking the fight, as you well know.
     
  3. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No problem You are entitled to your opinion
     
  4. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Na even faster fight
     
  5. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So how many times was DW embarrassed in the second fight? 3 times? more due to the stoppage? Wait a sec... did DW Also win the "Least amount of time embarrassed" belt? Damn!!! Won two belts getting TKO'd!! No wonder you are on a roll!
     
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  6. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It’s nothing to do with that though is it, it’s about calling someone pathetic and saying they quit by spitting out his gum shield and buying time because he was getting battered and didn’t know where he was, and at the same time defending someone who put up less of a fight and actually quit be definition, one of them avenged their loss, made no excuses and now has more heavyweight titles than anyone else currently, the other made up ridiculous excuses and has no belts. It’s not about which loss was worse Joshuas was clearly worse due to the Caliber of opposition, but he didn’t quit, did he want more I don’t think so who would? Would he have took more had the ref not stopped it? Probably, would his team have thrown the towel in? Probably not he’s English and so are his team.
    Did wilder want more? Again I don’t think so who would? Would he have took more, possibly, did his team throw the towel in? Yes, does that mean he quit? 100 percent it does and there’s not a person alive that can say anything different, wilder quit. How is this even an argument? Why is it even an argument?
     
  7. The Clan

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    OK then, let’s just look at his defences as a World Champion
    34 - Eric Molina - 37th - Part Timer/Teacher :)
    35 - Johan Duhaupas - 34th - Part Timer/Pastry Chef :)
    36 - Artur Szpilka - 24th :)
    37 - Chris Arreola - 43rd
    38 - Gerald Washington - 41st
    39 - Bermaine Stiverne - Unranked
    40 - Luis Ortiz - 4th - 40 years old and advised by his Dr not to fight due to heart condition
    41 - Tyson Fury - 4th - Recovering from Drug & Alcohol dependency, weighed 400lbs & suicidal
    42 - Domonic Breazeale - 15th
    43 - Luis Ortiz - 9th - see above but older
    44 - Tyson Fury - LOST - Fury Wins WBC World Title First decent opponent Wilder fought
     
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  8. The Akbar One

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    He did something worse. He made a bull**** excuse the following day, and stuck to it.
     
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  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Feel free to do this with the rest of the Current Ring Top 10.

    It's pretty easy. Most of the Ring Top 10 contenders have fought nobody in their last five fights.
     
  10. DoubleJab666

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    Yeah. Same finger can be pointed at Fury....
     
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  11. Naked Snake

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    Let's have a look at those rankings, shall we:
    Champion - Tyson Fury
    1 - Anthony Joshua
    2 -Dillian Whyte
    3 -Deontay Wilder
    4 - Luiz Ortiz
    5 - Andy Ruiz Jr
    6 - Alexander Povetkin
    7 - Joseph Parker
    8 - Michael Hunter
    9 - Adam Kownacki
    10 - Oscar Rivas

    Of those ten, Wilder has fought
    Champion - Tyson Fury
    4- Luis Ortiz
    Oh wow, he's fought two credible opponents. Barely beat one of them, got exposed and pasted by the other one twice

    Meanwhile, Anthony Joshua has fought and beat
    2- Dillian Whyte
    5- Andy Ruiz Jr (who is only on there because of Joshua in the first place)
    6- Alexander Povetkin
    7- Joseph Parker

    Even Fury himself has only fought Deontay Wilder and yet he made Wilder look like a third rate fighter
     
  12. Dubblechin

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    Wilder's last five fights have been:
    * Luis Ortiz - Current #4 Contender
    * Tyson Fury - World Champion
    * Dominic Breazeale - Current #16 Contender
    * Luis Ortiz (again) - Current #4 Contender
    * Tyson Fury (again) - World Champion

    And his next fight is going to be ... you guessed it ... Tyson Fury (the World Champion) again.

    Anyone who shits on that list is trying way too hard to complain. The criticism is laughable.

    Name off who everyone else has fought in the same period?

    Joshua fought
    * Carlos Takam - Current #26 contender
    * Joseph Parker - Current #7 contender
    * Alexander Povetkin - Current #6 contender
    * Andy Ruiz - Current #5 contender
    * Andy Ruiz - Current #5 contender

    Joshua has the best resume next to Wilder's among the current contenders.

    And nobody Joshua's fought in his last five fights are even currently rated higher than freaking Luis Ortiz by Ring.

    And the rest of the top 10 contenders have faced even worse opposition over their past five fights in recent years.

    So the nonsense that Wilder hasn't fought anyone is DONE!!! OVER!!!

    By the end of 2020, should the rubber match take place, Wilder will have fought the World Champion Tyson Fury THREE times and the #4 contender Luis Ortiz TWO times in his last SIX outings.
     
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  13. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ahh.. so that's how it works. You only compare resumes for the same short period of time that suits your guy. That's another belt he won!! The "Fought the best comp over this period of time" Belt!! Now it's three titles he won being TKO'd. You are proud momma!
     
  14. Dubblechin

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    Is five or six fights a short period of time when people fight once or twice a year?
     
  15. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You know precisely what you attempted to spin...shamelessly.