At the age of 16 RJJ won the National Junior Olympics in the 119lb weight division...

Amateurs dont count.

 

erm that is kinda trolling

 

It definitely sounds incredible that he was making that weight at 16....

He was also often quite small for the weight classes he fought in as he moved up.

 

:smoke

 

Cant compare amatuers like Floyd or Roy to the pac man, These guys were top amatures and brought along to be top boxers given care and team support right the way up to the olympics.

Someone like Pac and others like Barerra Morales etc were thrown in as boys (15 and 16 yrs old ILLEGAL IN MOST COUNTRIES) to fight fully grown men for peanuts. they had a far harder path and to come through to being P4P no 1 that way is extremley impressive, guys like Mayweather had multiple top trainers since he was 1 years of age for christ sake and still Pac destroys and drops similar opponents that he and floyd ever had.

 

When has he ever weighed in at 200lbs? Heaviest was 193lbs for the Ruiz fight..................

 

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Pacquaio has fought the best fighters available to him. Jones handpicked fights and REFUSED to fight the best fighters availiable to him.

That is the difference between the two. Get out of here with this garbage.

 

Not 2 troll but Valuev only used to way 7ilbs
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16 he was only a kid

 

Look the point is valid. Jones and Mayweather could have easily beatten the same levels of fighters that Pac was beatting as a pro at the age of 16 when he turned pro. In the case of Jones it would have been a pro career that would have gone from 122, 126, 130, 135, 140, 147, 154, 160, 168, 175 and heavyweight.

Not to take anything away from Pac, he is an amazing fighter, but the moving up in weight is overblown. Its a natural progression, the only reason that other fighters having done it is because fighters dont often turn pro at 16. But at the same time the fact that Pac has stay hungry as long as he has is amazing in itself.

 

Your avatar says it all... :bart

 

Again, he is just mentioning the weight. I am curious to know if Pac has an amatuer record and if he does, what it is? Did he start at 65 pounds or something. Weights, that is the thread. You think RJJ with that lightning speed couldn't fight adults at 16?