At the end of a career who's taken more damage an mma fighter or a boxer

ufoalf · Oct 1, 2010

Johnstown said: ↑

I think in the next 10 years as ex mma guys get up their in age your start to see the numbers on brain damage aren't that different (though I do think boxing will still be higher).

You will start to see more mma guys like chuck
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There's nothing wrong with Chuck...

ShamrockNapalm · Oct 2, 2010

I heard that having a strong neck lessens brain damage when taking a hit to the head. The weaker somebodys neck is the more likely the brain is to get the whiplash effect where the brain will have rapid acceleration and decceleration. I don't a think that having a strong neck prevents brain damage completely but it seems like it would definitely help. I make sure to do about 100 reps,3 sets front and back of neck pushups once or twice every week.

kirk · Oct 2, 2010

I guess i dont even see how this is comparable. A life as a boxer will take waaaaaay more out of someone then mma, and I dont see how anyone can really say otherwise. Obviously its going to depend on a case by case basis, but on average I dont think theres much comparison. Theres a reason boxers wind up with brain damage, and dying after fights on an almost annual basis.

kirk · Oct 2, 2010

Johnstown said: ↑

Boxers do take much more head trama in fights then mma guys do...but I tend to think a fair amount of the neurological trama comes in sparring...and with that, they are not to different.
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How are they not too different?

An MMA guys week could involve only spending maybe 60% of his time kickboxing sparring, while the rest is live grappling sparring, and working on all the other aspects of their game.

A boxers sparring consists entirely of punching eachother, every sparring match, all throughout.

When i used to train in MMA i would RARELY leave practise with a headache (other then from exhaustion) and having a headache after sparring in boxing was an almost daily occurance.

Even in training, Boxers take way more out of themselves.

And thats nothing to brag about. Its actually a big reason I'd actually rather my brother do mma then boxing, and if i have a son id rather him do mma then boxing. Boxing takes way too much out of an individual IMO. I love it to death and to me there will never be another sport like it, but its the cold reality.

Tora · Oct 2, 2010

a slap causes more trauma to the brain than a punch

Johnstown · Oct 2, 2010

ufoalf said: ↑

There's nothing wrong with Chuck...
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LOL..have you heard him "speak" any time recently....**** aint sounding so good..

Johnstown · Oct 2, 2010

kirk said: ↑

How are they not too different?

An MMA guys week could involve only spending maybe 60% of his time kickboxing sparring, while the rest is live grappling sparring, and working on all the other aspects of their game.

A boxers sparring consists entirely of punching eachother, every sparring match, all throughout.

When i used to train in MMA i would RARELY leave practise with a headache (other then from exhaustion) and having a headache after sparring in boxing was an almost daily occurance.

Even in training, Boxers take way more out of themselves.

And thats nothing to brag about. Its actually a big reason I'd actually rather my brother do mma then boxing, and if i have a son id rather him do mma then boxing. Boxing takes way too much out of an individual IMO. I love it to death and to me there will never be another sport like it, but its the cold reality.
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I agree to a point...a boxer will do more sparring..will take more head trama..but some gyms do more striking..and honestly..if you don't ever go live in sparring...then you aren't really getting ready to fight...and if you go live, you will get a headache. So I would say a mma guy takes more joint damage...a boxer more brain trama...but a mma guy if he is really training to fight will take some brain trama as well.

Johnstown · Oct 2, 2010

hitmanstrikes said: ↑

mma more, getting your legged kicked in, getting slammed and damaging ur back from getting slammed.
First of all has any boxer got staph infection ?
No! nearly 70% of mma fighter get staph infection.
Mma is more gruesome job.
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Kelly pavlik got staph...but yea that is minor point..that wrestling **** u gotta worry more about staph, skin herpes, ring worm..all that nasty ****...it definitly aint brain damage (though staph can kill) but its nasty as ****.

PNoyFightFanUSN · Oct 2, 2010

is there any long term damage from being choked out frequently? say, 2-4 times a year depending on how often you fight, possibly counting training sessions?

ShamrockNapalm · Oct 3, 2010

PNoyFightFanUSN said: ↑

is there any long term damage from being choked out frequently? say, 2-4 times a year depending on how often you fight, possibly counting training sessions?
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Definitely, between the time that you're unconscious and the time that you're revived your brain is lacking oxygen. During this time you're losing brain cells and causing brain damage.

Vanboxingfan · Oct 3, 2010

unsigned_userv2 said: ↑

It depends what you factor in as damage.

Boxers tend to suffer more internal injuries due to the repetitive nature of the blows (i.e. brain damage, kidney, liver damage, eye damage etc etc)

MMA fighters tend to suffer more external injuries (Such as cuts and scarring) as well as injuries closer to sports like rugby and football (twisted knees, dislocations of bones, torn muscles etc)

In the longterm, boxers will walk away with some form of brain damage which could include slurring, migraines, and/or eyesight problems; MMA fighters will walk away with some joint problems (similiar to other sports, such as running which will impact on knees)

Just like clockwork, universities, government bodies and medical institutes track and record injuries each year so it's not hard to find the kinds of injuries suffered. In terms of long term injuries, MMA just hasn't be around long enough to see a real study. MMA really only became professioanl at the turn of the millenium so it'd be unfair to use guys like Royce Gracie, Ken Shamrock, or any other fighters before that era
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I think you answered the question very well.

ufoalf · Oct 3, 2010

Johnstown said: ↑

LOL..have you heard him "speak" any time recently....**** aint sounding so good..
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Yes, he speaks just fine, he always spoke this way, watch recent TUF.

Will Cooling · Oct 3, 2010

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