At their peak, who was the most Dominant Heavyweight champion ever ?

I think Larry was great, the one thing we lack with him is another great in his era which could have defined more how good he was in his prime. We know he was damned good but the guys he fought were not greats really.
Norton Hall of fame past his prime. Cooney- a lot of attention big left hook but inexperienced and overrated a bit, Witherspoon. heck of a fighter but not that upper level who wins the big fights. Spinks, he lost two times to Tyson beat him.. Both when he got older.. Weaver was a good fight, but Mike was never elite.

 

louis.

tyson felt like itfor a while because you thought wow he did this at 20/21, what will he develop into??

 

I disagree with naming Wlad because he had losses before his run that made you think that if his challengers just lands right he could turn it around. So he never really looked that invincible, you knew under the right circumstances he could lose again because you had seen him get KOd before.
Same counts for Lewis

Marciano was undefeated but his performances were anything but dominant. He got knocked down by Moore, bloodied and cut in so many fights. Incredibly entertaining but not invincible because you saw him down on the cards with his face smashed in all the time.
Same counts for Holyfield who could dominate an elite heavyweight in one fight and in his next bout he could go to war with a bum and make it a fight of the year or look like he's gonna pass out from PED side effects. He never looked invincible.


Louis was very dominant but he have to get off the floor a few times.
Same with Holmes and frazier


That leaves Ali, foreman, liston and tyson.
Liston and foreman only defended their title 1-2 times so I would pick Ali and Tyson because they had longer runs and their aura of invincibility had time to build over a few years

 

A champ can dominate in different ways. I think Ali dominated the division pre exile as good as anyone. They couldn`t touch him. He actually got bored during fights. He wasn`t blasting people out though. Same could be said of Jack Johnson. Hell he was joking with people in the crowd, holding conversations while he was fighting.

 

Wlad because he was a great fighter in one of the weakest heavyweight eras of all time who had almost no competition from 2006-2014. That's the definition of dominant, nobody could touch him.

 

Got to be Tyson, who was truly considered to be unbeatable. His loss to Douglas is considered to be the most shocking fight of all time...and that's the fight that ended his reign.

Wlad wasn't as dominating because everyone knew he was one punch to the chin away from getting KO'd.

Ali wasn't as dominating post his draft issues...he fought Euro bums a lot, and had difficult fights with Jimmy Young, Spinks, Norton and Frazier. Had he not been banned he may have been even more dominating than Tyson in his time but we'll never know.

Louis fought "The Bum of the Month" club, nearly lost to a LHW, and avoided (or his promoters avoided) black boxers. However it can be said that he was "dominant" for a very long time. So he's second to Tyson in my book with respect to being "dominant".

 

Surprised nobody said Lennox Lewis. We all remembered what McCall did with one punch, the struggle with Mercer and the dangerous couple of rounds with Briggs. But around the year 2000 after becoming Undisputed Heavyweight Champ and beating Holyfield, Grant, Botha and Tua it looked like nobody on the horizon would put up a challenge. Of course Tyson was lined up for a potential SuperFight but Rahman got there with the spectacular upset.

But at their peak, Mike Tyson was considered unbeatable, invincible, the baddest man on the planet.

Joe Louis reigned for so damn long.

Holmes wasn't seen as dominant as Louis but he lasted 7 friggin years at the top!

Sonny Liston for a short time.

George Foreman for a short time.

 

Mike Tyson looked nigh unbeatable but it was against bad competition. Marciano is debatable but he never had the fear factor of the public that the others had, though boxers feared him. Prime Ali made his division look like amatuers, but look no further than Joe Louis when talking about dominance from the boxing and public eye. 26 title defenses with great competition in most

 

Reply, I'm sorry in my opnion their was nothing close to special with J Louis's competition. Yet he was put on his ass by some, and completely out classesd by a natural light heavy for 12 rds.

 

Billy Conn, Max Schmeling, Max Baer, Primo Carnera, Jersey Joe Walcott, and Tony Galento are pretty good competition imo. Also Billy Conn was much later in his career, Joe Louis aged like milk. Too each their own, though

 

How was Norton past his prime when he fought Holmes? When did he look better?

 

Liston after he beat Floyd the second time and Tyson after he beat Spinks must have been seen as pretty darn invincible. Especially Tyson since he was only 22. Foreman after he beat Norton and Ali after he beat Terrell are other good shouts as is Louis after completing 20 or so defenses before getting drafted.

But I'll go with Iron Mike, who had pretty much cleaned out the division in dominant fashion at only age 22.

It would turn out that he wasn't the most dominant ever, but the TS seems to be asking for the most dominant aura rather than results.

 

Well the least that you would have to say for Louis's competition, is that it was the best available.

That has to be factored into the argument, however good or bad the era was.

 

Holmes openly...OPENLY...ducked Greg Page and Pinklon Thomas. Abandoned a belt and bragged about how he liked to fight little guys for big money. OPENLY said that he only wanted to fight guys he can beat.

Dominant champs don't throw away belts to avoid guys they are afraid of.

When he was fighting Lorenzo Zanon, Tex Cobb, Leroy Jones, Ossie Ocassio and the like, yeah, I agree he dominated that sorry bunch.