At their prime who would win in a fight between Mike Tyson and Rocky Marciano?

Are you seriously implying that any of Marciano's opponents were in any way, shape or form equivalent to a young Mike Tyson?

 

The Moore that Marciano fought was almost TWICE the age of a prime Tyson. If Marciano couldn't figure out a slow, old lightheavy, who had already lost quite a few fights, he's going to have more than his hands full with a raging destruction machine in Tyson.

I'm sorry but this fight would not last long and Marciano would never be in it. He is echelons of hand and foot speed below Tyson and I don't even believe that he hit as hard as Mike, shot for shot. Figuring that Tyson will be outlanding him 3 or 4 to 1, this bodes for an early exit. Different level of talent, different level of ability.

 

Didn’t imply that all. The opposite actually. Tyson never faced a Marciano and vice versa. They are rare once in a generation power punchers.

 

What in the hell does that have to do with the fact that Marciano fighting Mike Tyson?
Mike Tyson wasn't putting on top class performances in his 40's either.
You're talking about two completely different fighters, and drawing the most shallow of conclusions possible to follow your tunnel vision quest to pick a favorite.

Moore scoring a cheeky KD with a sneaky counter overhand straight right while moving backwards isn't an indicator that Tyson busts in and dominates. Two entirely different styles, completely in different worlds.

Marciano is of a different class than all the opponents that Tyson dominated.
He won't go down easy, he won't get bullied easy.
He has smarter use of technique and boxing than those guys. He has better senses to avoid danger, and to keep up with where the momentum of the fight is going. He is more than capable of staying in this fight for 6 rounds. And you know how he works in those situations.

 

But not as creatively while moving backwards.
If it were Patterson, you'd have a point. Because the styles are so similar, you can extrapolate.

When did Tyson use a back-step sneaky right hand counter while leaning back to knock his opponents down?

Marciano wasn't expecting a knockdown blow to be thrown.
Against Tyson, he'd be looking for and would actively be trying to avoid, counter, and deal with big blows all night.

Foreman hit harder than Frazier but couldn't KD Ali.
Whoa. It's as if like styles has to do with it or something.

 

Lol Marciano was considered a power puncher for a 180 pound fighter. So you are implying that a 180 pound fighter can punch as hard as a 220 plus pound modern sized heavyweight? You Marciano fans are so sad and pathetic that I kind of feel sorry for you.

 

Reznick I know why you are a Marciano fan and it clearly has nothing to do with his boxing skills which of course he had none.

Marciano is a different class than the fighters Tyson dominated? You are right about that. Tyson dominated modern sized heavyweights and Marciano was a 180 pound cruiserweight.

Give me your excuse why Rocky Marciano could never knock down or hurt 160 to 180 pound Ted Lowry. Explain to me how he couldn't handle a light punching super middleweight in Lowry's power but could handle Mike Tyson a modern sized heavyweight with incredible power. [url]http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Rocky_Marciano_vs._Ted_Lowry_(1st_meeting)[/url] I know becuase he is Marciano and the t rules that apply to every other fighter doesn't apply to Marciano for a clearly obvious reason.

 

Why would a 180 pound fighter like Marciano be as hard as a puncher as 220 pound Mike Tyson? Well I do agree with you that it would be a easy exit for Marciano though.

 

Last I checked Marciano has the highest KO percentage amongst Heavyweight champs and wasn’t flattened by bums. I see clowns bringing up Lowry and clearly over state his performance. It was a decision no one in the Marciano camp worried he would lose. Lowry was a crafty vet who gave Marciano a nice fight but he wasn’t the winner.

 

I know you aren't bright but the last time I checked Maricano was a 180 pound fighter who faced mostly 180 pound fighters. Which means clown Marciano isn't a modern sized heavyweight and never fought any modern sized heavyweights. The last time I checked clown Ted Lowry was still a natural 160 pound fighter. A bum and everybody ringside still think Marciano lost and lost easily. The last time I checked according to news paper clippings a 160 pound Lowry could of knocked Marciano the 180 pound fighter out in the 2,3,4 rounds by held back. The last time I checked clown Edwin Valero has 27 wins and 27 KO's in his career. Which means by your logic he is the hardest puncher in the history or boxing. Sure he was only a 130 pound fighter and only fought guys at that size. But who cares lets just say he could punch harder than any heavyweight becuase I want to believe so.

 

Manny Steward knew a thing or two about heavyweight champs... He acknowledged that Marciano would have no place in the modern heavy game.

I am increasingly interested in what are the factors that attribute to the idolatry of Marciano with a segment of the boxing public. The obvious is race but that is a lazy answer, partly true but not wholey. The myth of his work ethic, the myth of his inhuman lower, the Rudy Effect.... You could write a psychological thesis on it.

 

Reading comprehension is difficult for some on this thread. No where did I state he “punched harder” then any heavy weight champ. Simply he has the highest KO pct meaning he had POWER. Weighed most of his career 185-189 not 180. Most of his opponents were also not 180. Probably about 200 and knocked out several SHW. Marciano wasn’t a norm obviously. He like many greats (Ali Foreman Tyson even) were freaks of nature. Tyson sycophants can’t get over that he was beatable. There was a clear cut blue print to beat him. Was easy enough for a C,B fighter in Douglas to beat him. And Holyfield (former cruiser himself) to embarrass him. People who constantly underrate Marciano clearly have another agenda.

 

As I've pointed out many think Ali could compete at heavyweight despite 20 plus years without any ali sized champs you find that less silly than Marciano worship if so why

 

Right little kid and I told you he knocked out 180 pound fighters which doesn't mean he could knock out a modern sized heavyweight. I told you that Marciano got his butt whipped by a 160 pound club fighter in Ted Lowry who couldn't punch. I told you a fact that in 2 fights with this club fighter he couldn't remotely hurt him.

The only fighters Marciano fought who weighed 200 pounds at the time he fought them were Don Cockell who weighed as low a 156 pounds. Lee Savold who weighed as low as 158, Artie Donato who only weighed 200 pounds one time in his career and that was against Marciano. James Patrick Connelly and we all know how great of a fighter he was. Humphrey Jackson who started his career at 160 and had a career record of 4-3, Bill Hardeman who was 1-6 in his career, Eldrige Eatman who was way past his prime and spent more of his career weighing about 180, Big Bill Wilson who was a bum, Keene Simmons who had a record of 9-22, Johnny Shkor who was past his prime and Joe Louis a guy who not only was past his prime started his career at low as 181.'

Yeah but in your eyes that means most of the fighters he faced were 200 pounds when in reality only 3 or 4 guys Marciano fought were natural 200 pounders. Marciano was trash and the only people who still keep bringing him up clearly have the agenda. They only like Marciano are the ones who like him because of something clearly obvious.

Lol also Buster Douglas a 6'4 230 pound man. So because a 6'4 230 pound modern sized heavyweight beat Tyson but using his height that means a show slow no skilled 5'10 180 pound fighter could do it? Yeah you Marciano fans are the most brain dead delusional boxing fans. Also Evander Holyfield was 6'2 which means he had the height to put on weight. Also Evander actually did move up and fight modern sized skilled heavyweights. Who did Rocky Marciano fight again? Mostly 180 pound guys or less and a 2 or 3 guys who were naturally over 200 pounds who sucked.

 

Lol Ali was 6'2 1/2 220. Alexander Povetkin was champion a few years ago. Joseph Parker is 6'3 230. Which means he is 1/2 inch taller than Ali and 10 pounds heavier. Marciano on the other hand was 5'10 180 pounds and a bum even for his era.