At this moment in time who's legacy is greater?

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  1. BOOKA

    BOOKA Member Full Member

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    Toney took roids

    So unfortunately that ruins all his acheivements and leaves his legacy in tatters IMO
     
    BOOKA, Jul 21, 2008
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  2. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So you rate Sven Ottke above Toney as well.

    Chavez went around 90 fights undefeated...
     
    JonOli, Jul 21, 2008
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  3. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    5 foot 10 Toney took roids as a heavyweight only, won the title, and was stripped of it.

    He has titles all the way from middle to Cruiser; no drugs involved.
     
    JonOli, Jul 21, 2008
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Including the guilty findings concerning Toney's use of perfomance enhancing drugs?

    Calzaghe.
     
    McGrain, Jul 21, 2008
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  5. BOOKA

    BOOKA Member Full Member

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    Exactly, he ruined all that hard work IMO by cheating when he moved to heavyweight
     
    BOOKA, Jul 22, 2008
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  6. brown_bomber

    brown_bomber BROWN BOMBER Full Member

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    yee when 16/17 of them defences are against bums
     
    brown_bomber, Jul 22, 2008
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  7. BIG WORM

    BIG WORM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    people dont even know why they are votng for calzaghe, they just vote because they love him, the are all ignorant fools. James toney pisses on calzaghe
     
    BIG WORM, Jul 22, 2008
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  8. mgal7414

    mgal7414 Member Full Member

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    Who the **** are you?
     
    mgal7414, Jul 22, 2008
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  9. Adaptation

    Adaptation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Although Toney has the better resume, if Joe retires with a win over RJJ and keeps his 0 defeats, he will be remember for way longer.
     
    Adaptation, Jul 22, 2008
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  10. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    I was about to agree, until I re-read the statement and realised he said ''Titles'' and not ''Titties''

    Toney is a bum, and a joke, Joe by a country mile.
     
    Anglosaxon, Jul 22, 2008
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  11. bigtime-skills

    bigtime-skills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol: :lol: WHO the **** has James Toney EVER avoided:patsch
     
    bigtime-skills, Jul 22, 2008
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  12. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :-(
     
    JonOli, Jul 22, 2008
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  13. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Toney because he's benefitted from having the right opposition in the ring and had the most memorable fights of the two. Calzaghe's had what on paper looks spectacular but there aren't any real classic fights.

    The Toney/Jirov fight alone is the type of fight that all fans of boxing remember long after a fighter hangs them up.

    It's been often said that for a fighter to achieve greatness he needs other fighters that bring out and cement that greatness. Where would Leonard be without Hearns, Hagler and Duran? Ali without Frazier?
     
    marting, Jul 22, 2008
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  14. jaois138

    jaois138 Dinamita Full Member

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    James Toney
     
    jaois138, Jul 22, 2008
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  15. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's almost mind-blowing the numbers for JC, even though Toney is still beating him by at least 3 times.

    Still, some decent poster names are in the Joe C section.

    :conf
     
    KO Boxing, Jul 22, 2008
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