At this moment in time, who's resume and legacy is the better? Bruno or Haye?

Tough one

Bruno was plagued by a lack of ring savvy and stamina - and an inability to realise when an opponent was ready to be taken out. He lost three fights in which he was in control - and another when he should have finished an opponent off.

Plus marks for winning the WBC title - but minuses for bypassing the domestic scene.

Haye has cleaned up cruiserweight - no mean achievement, but as yet nothing at heavyweight.

 

Got to go with Haye.

What he has done at CW overshadows picking up a belt at HW.

 

haye

 

I agree that Hayes accomplishments at cruiser are exagerated, beating Mormeck, Enzo and Fraggomeni is not cleaning up a division. Its a decent set of wins and Haye is probably the best in the world at that weight but its not this great resume that people are cracking it up to be.

 

Good post JonOli.

 

Haye is the Cruiserweight World Champion and has also won alphabet crap; Bruno won alphabet crap on his 3rd attempt, losing his only World Championship fight against Tyson in 89.

 

cunningham's belt doesn't count for ****. haye beat the man who beat the man etc.

when he stopped mormeck he became the legit champion in the division. haye's got bigger things on his mind, cunningham doesn't bring enough to the table.

in conclusion..

haye - the champ
USS - paper champ.

 

I agree that "cleaning out" the division goes a bit far, but he did beat the clear number in his own backyard by KO and followed it by destroying another titlist. Had anyone thought Cunningham might have a hope there would have been enough interest and therefore money to make it happen. Haye is head and shoulders above the rest of the CW division.

Now he's done that in 21 fights. What was Bruno doing at the same point in his career? Yes Haye has had a loss - fighting for the IBO title in his 11th fight vs a very durable ex wrold champ, who he was handing a beating to until he lack of praparation became all too apparent. It was a wake up call he needed and he learnt his lesson. I see that loss as the making of him in much the same way that Benn improved after his loss to Watson.

 

The calibre of opponent that Bruno had to face in title fights far outweighed (quality wise - pardon the pun) what Haye has faced thus far :deal

Hence a few losses.

Bruno was a world class fighter at a time when there were several world class fighters in his division. The only fight he should have lost really was the Tyson rematch.

He should have closed out against Bonecrusher
He should have beaten Witherspoon
He should have stopped Tyson
He was beating Lennox Lewis

:deal

 

Haye, like bruno alot but he choked on the big occassions, witherspoon, moorer.

 

He choked so badly for the Moorer fight that he didn't even turn up!!!! Mind you, neither did Moorer....

 

For me it is Haye.