At what Fight did Manny Pacquiao's Prime Started?

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  1. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    manny pacquiao and floyd mayweather have been world class boxers for more than a decade now. they started getting their multiple titles in 1998. but we can safely say that PBF's prime started from the moment he won his first world title and retired in his prime..

    how about manny pacquiao? when did his prime started? some say barerra lost to a pre-prime pacquiao...

    pacquiao's prime maybe just be going in its third year but it doesn't be that PBF had more longetivity as they are world class boxers since 1998...
     
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  2. the king

    the king New Member Full Member

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    pacquioa boxing carrer started with barrera first fight and he has proven that he's one of the best sluggers unlike pretty floy mayweather or juan manuel marquez
     
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  3. errsta

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    Ledwaba, IMO
     
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  4. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    pacquiao's career has a many stages...
     
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  5. errsta

    errsta Boxing Addict banned

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    I remember Larry Merchant put Manny on his P4P list after the Ledwaba fight. I thought he was smoking crack.

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    lol
     
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  6. 41fever

    41fever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Morales 2, he looked to be mastering his own style.
     
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  7. huggerfree

    huggerfree Well-Known Member Full Member

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    physical prime= 122
    Skill prime = started at morales 2
     
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  8. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    :deal
     
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  9. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i do agree here...:good
     
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  10. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    I agree...

    this is where he started using his right hand more.


    @ 126 his speed and power was at it's best though...
     
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  11. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yep...have to agree his overall skill level was starting to get noticeably better by the Morales II fight.

    I also didnt see any kind of drop in speed, power and explosiveness from his 122 days..so Im inclined to think even at 126-130 he was still in his physical prime.
     
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  12. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    I just dont see it ay...even if there is not really a way to measure these things quantitatively.

    I just reckon he was in against a higher calibre of opposition once he hit feather.
     
    WhataRock, Mar 22, 2009
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  13. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    basically, here is the simplest answer. pac's physical peak have already passed when he developed his boxing/technical skills. just imagine if his physical and technical peak arrived at the same time. :shock:
     
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  14. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He beat a very good barrera the first time so it has 2 be then 4 me.
     
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  15. Nestea

    Nestea Thirst Remover Full Member

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    IM Picking he was starting to learn everything at the start of Morales II. On Barrera he was just jab jab straight left... On Marquez we all know how limited Pac is and didnt manage to win enough to get out the controversial thing. On Morales I, he just freaking outbox by the TRUE MEXICAN WARRIOR! And also in my opinion Pac is starting to get a hang on Freddie Roach style changing in Morales I, he freaking can't throw that right hook!
     
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