At what point did Canelo Alvarez surpass his HOF opponents legacies?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Contro, Sep 15, 2023.

  1. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jul 11, 2012
    Canelo beat GGG Twice officially & moved up to become undisputed.

    that’s what will be said about Canelo over GGG
    long after we have died & returned to dust.
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  2. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Steroid Junkie Full Member

    May 8, 2014
    Luckily the video footage will always exist for posterity.
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  3. Clout

    Clout New Member Full Member

    Dec 12, 2022
    Canelo came up from a lower weight class than GGG, beat him (whatever you think about that), unified the division above, and tried to win titles in the division above that. He's certainly passed GGG in terms of legacy (and I say that with a heavy heart, as I much preferred GGG).

    In answer to Miniq's question about what has he done; unified. Something TF, sadly, has not dared to try yet. Though I still live in hope
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  4. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Addict Full Member

    Nov 2, 2010
    Thanks to lies and corruption. They stole from Golovkin's plate and put on Canelo's plate. Golovkin deserves credit where credit is do. If Canelo is an all time great for accomplshing all he did plus giving GGG 2 great fights in losing efforts, so be it, but the draw and win over Golovkin is just bogus. A win, a draw and a loss for GGG maybe, but no wins over Canelo is historically criminal.
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  5. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jul 11, 2012
    it is what it Is
    However GGG’s legacy is directly tied to his own inactivity outside of his fights with Canelo
    That is GGG’s own fault.
    Gotta a taste of the great life & didn’t want to bother with anything less then the “PeyDey”
  6. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

    Aug 24, 2022
    What will be remembered is that Canelo got 8-4’d by old man GGG twice. What he should also be remembered for is the countless fix fight sparring sessions he’s been involved in (see Canelo Kovalev, for example) at the higher weight classes
  7. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jul 11, 2012
    sure on the obscurest boxing forums on the interwebz …. Echoing forever
  8. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

    Aug 24, 2022
    Obscurest? Look on every GGG Vs Canelo 1 or 2 full fight on YT - majority of the comments are talking about robbery.
  9. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jul 11, 2012
    Yeah now,
    Im talking when we are dead & gone
    No one will give a hell enough to rewatch or care.

    BoxRec stats & legacy will belong to Canelo over GGG.

    let’s break it down
    If you take the name GGGs off of Canelo’s resume he is still considered great because of moving up & becoming undisputed & highlight reel KOing Kovalev - past it sure but it’s still a little guy KOing a Big Guy & that’s how he will be remembered.

    Take Canelo’s name off of GGG’s resume … & we’ll it’s quite garbage without Nelo tbh.
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  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

    Apr 14, 2009
    As every fighter that fought him realized when you got in the ring with Canelo you weren't just fighting him. You were actually fighting the ref, the judges, the commission as well. He took over the mantle of cash cow from Floyd he knew he'd never lose a decision in Vegas regardless. he was practically bullet proof
  11. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 21, 2010
    that man got a draw then got beat TF up twice stop crying and move on, GGG had a chance to make a real legacy outside of Canelo and didn’t then lost to Canelo twice.
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  12. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    May 22, 2011
    For one, Mayweather and Canelo are the same height, Two, Canelo has a much bigger frame than Mayerather, that's why he came into thier fight weighing 165 lbs. Mayweather started at super featherweight and went up 5 divisions, Canelo started at welterweight and went up 5 divisions, No difference. The only difference is that when Canelo got to 147, Mayweather beat that ass. Then when he to 175, Bivol beat that ass. He never will surpass Mayweather.
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  13. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer banned Full Member

    May 4, 2012
    I'd say though, probably when he KOd Kovalev. He'll never surpass Floyd though.
  14. Boxcel

    Boxcel Member Full Member

    Jan 31, 2019
    Canelo got more natural muscle is all, Mayweather could easily bulk up too if he wanted to. 5'8 bodybuilders didn't start out being super thick, they bulked up the muscle.

    Mayweather was terrified of being at a large height and reach disadvantage at the higher weights. Lower weights were fine but 6 footers starting at 154-168 are another level. So wat did he do? Stuck to beating midgets or people his height he can bully around with his longer arms
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  15. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jun 7, 2016
    Why didnt he fix Bivol then ?