At what point did heavyweight "giants" learn to punch with correct technique?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mr.DagoWop, Jun 7, 2017.


When?

  1. 1920s-1930s

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  2. 1940s-1950s

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  3. 1960s-1970s

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  4. 1980s-1990s

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  5. 2000s-2010s

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  6. They always have

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  7. They never have

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  1. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    English teachers will give you an F for starting sentences and questions with a conjunction. They tell you that over and over in elementary school.

    Mcvey you are the one who starts the trash talk every time. Don't try acting like I am just coming out of the blue calling people morons. We had an entire conversation where you kept trying to goad me into a childish name calling contest but over and over I refused you. You are an immature man child who, at 68 years old, spends most of his time on boxingforum24 (lmao) instigating arguments. What's wrong your boyfriend not giving you enough attention?

    Btw the post you are talking about that had the misspelling was just that a misspelling. This is the internet, sometimes people forget to hit certain keys. I can guarantee if someone wanted to take the time out and do it they could go through all of your posts and find enough misspellings/grammatical mistakes to right a book.
     
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  2. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    ^ ^
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    Sorry, couldn't resist!
     
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  3. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    F*ck...
     
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  4. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Boxing technique isn't opinionated. There is only one way of throwing each punch. Any deviation from that is incorrect.

    What do you say to that? Which one of us do you think is write?
     
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  5. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Lol, whats the chances of that!
     
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  6. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I say it depends on what your definition of boxing technique is. Mine is the mechanics behind each punch such as pivot/hip rotation, shoulder snap, then arm extension.

    Apparently some people believe boxing technique to be hand placement and angle from which the punch is thrown. That is where your confusion comes from, you want me to be arguing a claim which is easy to refute so you keep pushing for me to be arguing for an incorrect definition. Strawman.
     
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  7. Eddie Ezzard

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    My confusion stems from not knowing what your opinion is. One minute you say there is 'only one way of throwing a punch and any deviation is incorrect' then you say there are 'multiple correct ways'. I've always taken'one' and 'multiple' to mean different things. Cut me some slack here. You must admit that's a bit of a curveball you've thrown us.

    Nobody's pushing you to 'make a claim that is easy to refute'. You did that voluntarily and it was so 'easy to refute', you even refuted it yourself.
     
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  8. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    According to that other guys definition there are multiple ways.
     
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  9. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Are you still in elementary school?
     
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  10. Eddie Ezzard

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    The direct quote was you. Both quotes, despite being completely opposite, were from you.
     
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  11. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You aren't putting the context though. You see, this is what happens when we argue semantics on here. A bunch of confusion and misunderstandings.

    My definition of technique was the basic **** like I said: pivot/hip rotation, snapping shoulder, then extending the arm. That's the gist of it. Obviously it varies from punch to punch, that's just an example of what I am talking about.

    The other guys definition of technique was including angles and hand positioning. Now if you include that in your definition then yes there are multiple correct techniques. But according to my definition there is only a single correct technique.

    Do you see what I am saying? Its semantics. Depending upon who's definition we use determines singular or multiple forms of correct technique. Care to tell me how this has anything to do with "At what point did heavyweight giants learn to punch with correct technique?"
     
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  12. Mr.DagoWop

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    Yes, I'm only 8 years old.
     
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    It actually wouldnt matter with boxing gloves on ,particularly modern ones bc they are more padded,because the glove as a whole lands not a specific knuckle.Certain punches MIGHT benefit from the outer knuckles but i wouldnt suggest it as the first two are less breakable.Fractures usually accure with the smaller fingers/knuckles. the radius bone ( larger forearm bone) also supports the big knuckles and thumb so im not sure Demspey really knew what he was talking about or just to talk and make a book?
     
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    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    'This is going around in circles." Oh yes welcome to DAGO WORLD im VERY familiar with it.....enjoy the ride im not getting on this time....lol
     
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  15. mcvey

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    As I said I'm more concerned with you calling everyone liars and morons.

    You got seriously found out on the Gibbons and Brennan statement ,that," they ran from Dempsey", and also when you described Dempsey as" a counter puncher".
    In truth you don't know what the f*ck you are talking about.
    I also asked you what was the basic flaw with Ali's jab ?
    A question you are unable to answer .
    You see ,when you set yourself up as a self -appointed expert you at least have to have some elementary knowledge of your subject and you appear to be lacking it.
    The result is you are just projecting yourself as a mouthy arrogant kid, who has a very tenuous grasp of his subject.Of course you are perfectly entitled to do this. Just don't expect any credibility here.
    I've learned a lot during my time here because there are many posters with in depth knowledge in certain areas of the sport and several that have a comprehensive grasp of boxing in general .You fit into neither category.
    I don't envisage you adding to your knowledge of boxing here, simply because you appear to think you know it all already!

    Calling me gay, as if that is an insult ,disappointing and sad,hearing it from a young man,did you vote for Donald? Are you even old enough to vote?


    I'm about to take a shower and meet up with the gang for cards and a few beers ,usually its jazz on a Sunday but there is none this week,don't worry about my social life its very full and rewarding.
    .NB I can spend as much time as I want on this or any other forum because I was smart enough to earn sufficient money to be able to retire at 56,so I've been on a 12 years vacation.Judging from your imput here, you will still be working when you're 80!
    Carwashing or McDonalds?
     
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