At what point is Wardley no longer the "Underdog"

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  1. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Underdog against Usyk (massive underdog), Kabayel (big underdog) and Dubois (slight underdog).

    Most likely underdog against returning Fury (we don't know what he has left) and Ituama (don't know how good he is yet).

    AJ would be 50-50.
     
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  2. Dagnaldinho

    Dagnaldinho Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Obviously ignored everything i just said so whats the point in carrying this on. Go back and read what i said then come back with a different answer.
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    While I picked Wardley to beat Parker by stoppage. Now I think people need to rein in their overhyping of him a little bit, for precisely the reason why I thought he'd pull that one off to start with. Which is because Joseph Parker is one of the most featherfisted highly rated Heavyweights on the planet. The other being Justis Huni. So take a step back, and think about this for a minute. Wardley has been badly buzzed by Eric Molina, Joseph Parker, Nathan Gorman, Justis Huni and Frazer Clarke. Which one of them is genuinely some ferocious KO artist? Not a goddamn one of them. The only reason why Adeleye didn't buzz him is because he's such a shitty boxer, he couldn't lay a glove on him. So before everyone gets caught up in this mythological powers of recovery nonsense. Mull this over, if he's hulking up and running wild, after doing repeated stanky legs, at the hands of non-punchers. What the hell do you think he's going to do if he gets hit flush by an actual puncher? I'll tell you what he's going to do... absolutely ****ing nothing, because he'll be knocked the **** out.
     
  4. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold The Hype Job Spotter. Full Member

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    I'm really not confident in Wardley beating Zhang. Its stylistically a very bad match up for him.
     
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  5. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Love to see it, this would be the old man's first real title shot
     
  6. Csonnyliston

    Csonnyliston Undefeated P4P King of online arguments! Full Member

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    When enough people bet on him to move the line to make him the favorite.
     
  7. Dagnaldinho

    Dagnaldinho Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This wasnt to do with Betting Lines, was industry picks
     
  8. Lonsdale81

    Lonsdale81 Active Member Full Member

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    Dubois v Wardley gotta happen
     
  9. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Wardley would be the favorite vs Joshua at this point
     
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  10. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This would be great -- two big guys with big power, the one who is a better boxer growing weaker and losing confidence as an opponent starts troubling him and hurting him, the one who is the worse boxer growing stronger and more aggressive as an opponent troubles him and hurts him.

    I will say though that if Usyk knocked out Dubois twice, Wardley could one-shot him. Especially if the shot occurs when Wardley is in rage mode after being beat up for a few rounds.
     
  11. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not going to make out I heavily favoured Wardley over Parker.

    But I also couldn't understand why Parker was considered such a strong favourite ?

    Ok Wardley hadn't really had many notable wins but Parker for me has never been a stand out Heavyweight.

    Don't get me wrong Parker is solid and is a good all rounder but he doesn't really have any stand out attributes in speed, power, defence, etc.

    Not to mention historically Parker has never looked that impressive vs British Heavyweights.

    Barely got past Hughie Fury.

    Lost to Whyte.

    Got a gift decision vs Chisora in their 1st fight.

    Beaten up by Joyce.

    Lost to Joshua in a poor effort.

    So I was baffled that somehow Parker would be a big favourite against a 6'5 KO puncher like Wardley.

    As for Wardley as a whole I do think he has a good chance vs the fellow British Heavyweights like Joshua and Dubois.

    No chance vs Usyk.

    I'd also favour Kabayel to beat him.

    But to be honest apart from Usyk the Heavyweight division isn't that strong atm Joshua is faded, Fury is retired, Wilder is shot.

    So once Usyk is retired Wardley can really start to fill his boots I think.
     
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  12. fencik45

    fencik45 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk is taking a money fight instead. He will return to easily lift the belt off of Wardley to become 3 times undisputed. Wardley will lose soon no matter who he fights.
     
  13. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    What money ??? Wardley would fill wembley , kabayel as well . Riyadh is not interested in usyk vs wilder - so just usa to make it hapöen at all . Ok , maybe ukrainian goverment will fill the purse for this joke .

    Its not prize fighting here
     
  14. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oleksandr Usyk - Underdog
    Anthony Joshua - Favourite
    Daniel Dubois - 50-50
    Agit Kabayel - Underdog
    Tyson Fury - Underdog
    Moses Itauma - 50-50

    Zhilei Zhang - Favourite
    Martin Bakole - Favourite
    Justis Huni 2 - 50/50
    Joseph Parker 2 - 50/50
    Frank Sanchez - Favourite
    Bakhodir Jalolov - Favourite

    Deontay Wilder - Favourite
    Filip Hrgovic - Favourite
    Jarred Anderson - Favourite
    Lenier Pero - Heavy Favourite
    Arslanbek Makhmudov - Favourite

    Lawrence Okolie - Favourite
    Murat Gassiev - Favourite
    Efe Ajagba - Favourite
    Derek Chisora - Favourite
     
  15. fencik45

    fencik45 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wardley is a bum. He is the equivalent of a prime wilder. Neither will ever be found to have had a prime. Odds are Wardley loses his first or second defense. Btw, he never won the title in the ring. Pathetic