At what stage in Naz's career could he have beaten the Barrera he lost to.

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  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Morales and Junior Jones arent half as defensively skilled as Barrera though and would walk on to 1 of Naz's hayemakers. Morales is also quite a light hitter compared to Barrera let alone Naz. Morales has a great chin but f Hamed was landing his best shots its getting cracked imo

    Naz under Ingle certainly would have stuck to utilisising more movement and head movement and crazy angles. Post Ingle he became flat footed. Its a pity Naz didnt let HErol Bomber Graham train him who himself invented the Ingle style and trained with Naz in the early days
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Totally agree :good
     
  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    The MAB=Hamed fight remains one of my favorites and one of the most aesthetically satisfying fights in all of boxing history..it's a mshame it wasn;t for 15 rounds instead of 12 so that there could have been 3 more rounds of the boxing clinic/humiliation meted out to Hamed...he really had it coming...and it made a huge Mab fan out of me...what a boxer and what a performance!!
     
  4. Neverchair

    Neverchair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Naz was far too reliant on his speed and power giving defence a back seat.

    In the majority of his fights it was enough to pull off great wins but when he started to fight real world class opponents his total lack of guard meant he got hit a lot.

    Barrera's defence was just too tight and he seemed to be able to pick Naz off at will.

    I think Naz believed his own hype far too much by the time he met Barrera and felt he could beat top opposition with his speed and power alone.

    He should have learned from the Kevin Kelley fight but he was just too confident in his own abilities.
     
  5. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    They possessed something thats the great equalizer to someone with wide open style, and thats a good straight right hand. That was the punch that did Barrera in against Jones. Jones had a weak chin, but he could crack with the righthand.
     
  6. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know if he ever could of beat Barrera.

    From when Naz got his world title, he just declined from there on out. He did less traning between fights, fought less often, gave up roadwork, ignored his trainer, and started eating more and putting huge amounts of weight on in between fights, and became more cocky.

    He also became KO crazy and forgot other things such as defence, footwork, and timing. The fight he was the most dedicated for and trained the hardest for was probaly when he fought for the European title against Vincenzo Belcastro. Belcastro had much more experience over the 11-0 Hamed, and some thought Frank Warren had over matched Naz.

    Naz completly dominated him from start to finish, even dropping the extremely durable Belcastro twice.
     
  7. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was also a bantamweight when he fought those 2.
     
  8. JudgeDredd

    JudgeDredd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As long as he's got a hole in his arse he'd never beat Barerra, He was easy pickings for a good solid pro, always was.
     
  9. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Naz is a live chance of JJ'in Barrera at just about any point.

    A younger, less polished MAB especially.

    Its just very unlikely more often then not.
     
  10. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Naz may have had a chance with MAB about 6 months before Barrera transformed himself into a boxer...but never post Junior Jones.
     
  11. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Interesting off note. Hamed was ringside for the first Barerra/Jones fight. Naz like most was assuming that Barrera was going to win, and then the two would face of in a battle of the unbeatens and create one of the biggest little men fights in history.

    But Jones spoiled those plans..........
     
  12. essexboy

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    He beat every solid pro he fought in his career. The only guy who beat him was a future hall of famer and probable ATG.
     
  13. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The MAB that got beaten twice by Jones vs the best version of Naz? Yeah. I'd give Naz a decent chance.
    Prime for prime you have to say Mab was a level above however.

    Still a lot of posters who allow their personal dislike of Naz (and lets be honest, he was/is a monumental ****) to cloud their judgement.
     
  14. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    The Hamed of then might have a chance with the Barrera of today.
     
  15. HyperBone

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    I dont think he can beat any 'boxer puncher' of barrera (not the younger one), cause barrera's style is just too tailor made for him. barrera's was good enough to follow him all over the ring for any counterpunching opportunities, nas, despite being awkward, just cant seem to get past him.