ATG Acid Test: Mayweather, Jr vs. Chavez, Sr.

I believe Chavez could have gotten a strap at 147lbs had he fought another lesser titlelist..problem was he challenged Pernell ****ing Whitaker and a younger, bigger, faster peak De La Hoya for the titles. Something that sets Julio apart from today's modern "greats".

 

:deal Exactly.
100 wins w/o a loss was definitely the benchmark they were after.

I would have given Chavez a great chance to beat McGirt & Blocker @ WW.
Simon Brown however would have been a nightmare of a fight.
(Brown was a beast)

 

Agreed.

 

Tough fights.

McGirt looked tremendous in dethroning Brown, and really gave Pernell one hell of a fight when Pea moved up to face him in Buddy's backyard (MSG).

 

I can see Michael Buffer introducing Jr in the future.

"El Chaaaato" Julio, Cesaaaar, Chavez, Jr!

 

:deal The only prime fighters Floyd is fighting are 5 inches shorter and glass chinned with tremendous flaws. At least Guerrero is iron chinned and Floyd won't even fight Canelo. Neither Ortiz, Guerrero, or Canelo were as good as the Oscar Julio was facing.

 

God No.

 

^Those 2 guys were amongst my Fav fighters of all time.
(I regard Brown & McGirt very high on my favs list)

 

Julio should've been an ATG Lightweight. He is H2H, of course.
(Wish he stayed longer)

 

How are those 2 related?

Rosario was a murderous puncher & couldnt put a dent in Chavez. JCC wasnt phased by his power at all & kicked the **** out of him.

Does Floyd have anything comparable?

 

Which of the fighters below was in the absolute beastly prime when Mayweather fought them?

154: Miguel Cotto - good win

147: Victor ortiz - where does he rank 147 all time or 147 at the time.

147: Shane Mosley - Rank this win according to the point in time of Shane's career.

147: JMM - against a 130 lbs fighter. Where does JMM rank ATG at 147?

147: Hatton - Where does Hatton rank ATG 147

154: ODLH - Rank this win according to the point in time of ODLH's career.

147: Baldomir- Where does Baldo rank ATG 147

147: Sharmba Mitchell - 5'0 Little big man -Where does he rank 147 ATG?

140 -Gatti, Bruseles, Corley


135: Ndou - eh

135: Castillo II - ran the entire fight

135: - Castillo I - Castillo got robbed

130: Chavez - good win

130: Corrales - good win

135: Augustus - eh

130: Juuko - eh

130: Vargas - who?

130: Manfredy - decent win

130: Chicanito - RIP - It was Chicanito's last fight


He is hardly the ATG he and his fanboys claim to be and an absolute farse...

 

My dozen has a vastly different mix of types and styles.

Just missing is probably Holyfield, Nelson, Morales.

 

It was the IBF title he won from Meldrick. A Pineda fight would've been nice, but his vacating it had as much to do with Bob Arum squabbling over the purse split before the deadline passed than anything else. Honestly, the guy fought:

'87 Edwin Rosario
'90 Meldrick Taylor
'93 Pernell Whitaker (JCC fading)
'96-'98 Oscar De La Hoya (JCC clearly past it)

All elite P4P fighters in their primes. Why would he be scared of Pineda, bro?

 

Ahem, how many times did Floyd UNIFIED?

care to explain his resume at 147lbs? Judah? Baldomir? 140lber in Hatton? 2 weight jumping JMM? Shot to **** Mosley? Victor Ortreez? :rofl:rofl:rofl

Had there been fighters the caliber of Pernell Whitaker and PRIME ODLH at 147lbs in Floyd's era, he would stay THE **** away, just how he stayed away from that "one dimensional Filipino Midget"

and lets not forget, Chavez would fight an avergae of 5 times a year, while Floyd nowadays fights a pathetic once a year.

Give Chavez Floyd's opponents at 147lbs and he'd be the undisputed Welterweight champ as well...****, if he would fight once a year like Floyd does, he would still be elite at Floyd's current age too.

and it was the IBF belt, genius. At least Julio fought another fellow champ in that division. Why didnt Floyd fight Freitas or casamayor when they were champs at 130lbs? Why didn't he fight Tszyu at 140lbs? Why didn't he fight a Prime Cotto or Paul Williams at 147lbs

Oh and that bum in pink shorts that he fought was in '96...Waaay after he vacated the IBF title. Get your **** straight before you talk boxing with me, kid.