ATG at 168: RJJ, Calzaghe, Ward?

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  1. Ren

    Ren Active Member Full Member

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  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    All seems a bit of a desperate post Ren.

    I work full time also thanks. But it seems when I questioned you on scoring some rounds you have got all defencive and found you cant answer :oops:.
    I noted it must have been a bit stressful pre fight when people are trying to put glass in your food and drink, but still Calzaghe won.
    I dont know how you get found out when 2 judges had him 5 points clear :lol:.
    Still tell me how Woodhall, Mitchell, Lacy, Kessler, Hopkins or Jones were weaker opposition than Reid. This will be good.

    Oh and who do you think won out of Ward and Boone :oops:
     
  4. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ward is the present and future haha!! the truth!
     
  5. keith

    keith ESB OG Full Member

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    Jones easy at one

    Calzaghe

    Ward.



    Keith
     
  6. JASPER

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    LOL, I said TOP fighter in their prime . . . no one but you think Lacy, Mitchell and Reid as top or elite fighters. I am surprised that you did not bring up you normally ******ed claim that both Bhop and RJJ were and still prime. But oh wait you couldn't because you were trying dismiss the Kessler that fought Ward or rather Big up the Eubanks that Calslappy fought.

    Pfft, double vision . . . if he had double vision going into the fight he would have never fought. If he had double vision in during the fight it might have had something to do with him getting hit in the head . . . lol. Calslappy fought a weight-drained Eubanks that had to go up two divisions after that fight and called it quits after fighting C-level Thompson in two wars . . . Eubanks was done son.

    So fighting only one elite fighter in their prime, defending the worthless WBO trinket against the equally worthless WBO ranked contenders, in the SMW in its infancy doesn't mean ****.

    I do give him credit for almost unifying the SMW division and going up to fight the 175 champ in such a close fight that he was "given" the decision in a fight he really lost.

    Bailey, I know you are really Calslappy . . . why do you try and defend your record in the 3rd person . . . why don't you just come out and say who you really are?:deal Only you can try to defend the indefensible
     
  7. watcher

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    I surprised myself by having the endurance to read the whole thread. These Ward pushers are really something. They don't respond to any argument and come up with the silliest, most illogical statements.
    Like: the Super 6 was of higher quality than Joe's defenses. Really? Kessler had the best resume in the Super 6 and he was one of those Calzaghe victims.

    Bailey, you're pretty much on target, but stop wasting your time with these clowns.
     
  8. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm one of those guys who think the quality of the S6 was better than the general quality of Calzaghe's defenses. I'd say Kessler(obviously), Lacyand Bika were on par. Reid, Woodhall, Mitchell, Brewer were a tick below. Most of the others? Not so much.

    The overall quality from the time he won the wbo belt to when he unified vs Lacy was mostly poor with a few solid guys thrown in. But most of those guys aren't and weren't considered top notch. Other guys had no business being defenses of a long time title holder.

    I do think Ward, Kessler, Froch, Dirrell even Taylor would be able to make that run unbeaten. Abraham would probably have some trouble with some of the bigger guys.

    He then beat Lacy, Bika and Kessler, and those are 3 good to very good wins.

    But it's the years before he gets criticized for. Some fairly, some unfairly.

    However, I do not think Ward is at the precipice of knocking Calzaghe from his perch as the most accomplished SMW. IMO he would need to beat Bute and make 3 or 4 good defenses before it may happen. But that's just me.


    EDIT: Guys like Allan Green an Glen Johnson are not above JC's defenses.
     
  9. ripcity

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    1.Jones
    2. (Toney)
    3. Calzaghe
    4. Ward.

    Ward is ganging ground on everyone including Jones.
     
  10. TheRoadWarrior4

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    Uhh what are you arguing exactly, I put Calazghe first and Ward last if you notice.

    Also Ward is 15 years younger than Joe and has matched most of his best wins already. So **** off.
     
  11. Bald_Toad

    Bald_Toad Ring Title Full Member

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    bika & kessler = Calzaghe leftovers :deal
     
  12. OPBF

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    Resume in 168:
    1.Calzaghe, 2.RJJ, 11.Ward

    H2H at their primes:
    1.RJJ, 2.Calzaghe, 8.Ward

    I hope most people won't forget that SMW wasn't created just after Calzaghe messed up Lacy. It had a lot of storied fighters fight in it.
     
  13. bailey

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  14. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I try and stick to facts but they dont answer and come out with the most ridiculous things.
    Someone wrote Calzaghe has a weak resume and Ward has a good resume :patsch:lol:. See what you come up against
     
  15. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    ?????????????
    You do know that you take punishment in the fights you win as well, right?

    After Benn I Eubank would say he needed 10 months to fully recover from the beating he took in that fight

    He took another 10 months off after the beating he took in Watson II

    Clearly slowed down by the Thornton fight, were he was constantly getting tagged with right hands.

    After Watson II Eubank got gift decisions against: Benn, Schommer, Close
    He should of lost all the above fights

    Barely shaded decisions against: Malinga, Thornton and Roccigaiani
    All the above stated fights could of easily gone against him.

    stop boxrecing
    He clearly lost both of those fights, especially the second fight.