ATG at 168: RJJ, Calzaghe, Ward?

Very good post from someone who has watched the division for more than just 5 years

 

Comical that, isnt it.
Froch was a fair win for Ward but not as good as many of Calzaghes

 

I consider Mario Veit as good as Allan Green. Look how Joe demolished him. Yet for Calzaghe's detractors he's a worthless opponent. However, the same people
consider Green a very credible name on Ward's record.

 

Then you dont know what you are talking about

The win Calzaghe had over Veit was a very good victory.
The first time Calzaghe beat Veit, Veit was 30-0 and hadnt beaten anyone of real note, hence he was blown away in a round by Calzaghe.
When Calzaghe beat Veit a 2nd time Veit was an accomplished world rated 45-1 fighter, who was WBO int champ and winner of 2 world title fights and who had some solid victories behind him, and was top 10 rated.
Veit had beaten undefeated Dziarra who wasnt a great fighter but did go on to beat L Mock and undefeated M Oral who would go on to challenge MW champs A Abraham and S Sylvester recently.
Veit had also beaten beaten undefeated Guerrero for the European union title.
Veit beat future title challenger Salem and Mock.
Veit also beat world rated C Brewer with an educated destructive 9th round KO.
A note on Veit. He only ever lost to world champs or fighters who became world champs and has victories over Mock, Salem, Perdermo (a future Kessler challenger), Brewer when Brewer was world rated and Veit beat undefeated Braehmer 27-0 who became WBO LHW champ
A good Calzaghe victory over a mandatory world class SMW
Also a great away victory for Calzaghe in Germany


Green hasnt done half of what Veit has done

 

I dont get all the hype for Ward, yeah hes pretty good and good enough to be the top dog right now (although im convinced Dirrell will dominate eventually) but im not sure id be strugglin to compare him with names like Roy Jones Jr, or Calzaghe, Hopkins.

 

How did we get to Allan Green.....atsch
ffs.atsch
TrYing to justify Wards **** resume thats how....:roflatsch

1) Sir Joe. ( best 168lb barn none 46-0 there is no blueprint )
2) Roids ( roids wet toilet paper chin, crap resume but could hold his own in 168lb (
3) Ward ( winning super 3 in the final with slow-mo froch dont make u **** )

 

Best Fighter
1) RJJ




2) Ward
3) Calslappy


Status

1)Calslappy 2) RJJ
3) Ward


Status wise Ward or Bute will be considered the best shortly, because the SMW division has become legitimized mainly do to fighter like Joe and Roy. Outside of Europe the SMW division really didn't mean **** . . . like another silly belt when it first came out.

 

Jones 1st, yes X2.

 

Actually, I was defending Calzaghe. I think my comparison is fair. Green is as talented, if not as accomplished, as Veit.

 

Hilarious people comparing Ward to Calzaghe at this stage. Bags of potential but come on.

 

1. Calzaghe, acheived the most at 168
2. RJJ, has the best win (Toney) & is #1 h2h imo
3. Ward, still early days

 

Im not a fan of Calzaghe but Ill give him #1 for resume at 168, he spent nearly his whole career there so yeah

H2H though I have Jones #1 at the weight.

Ward #3 in both instances he just barely unified

 

Calzaghe
Jones












Ward

 

I thought Bute is a nobody and doesn't deserve a fight with Ward, why would that set him above Calzaghe?

 

1. RJJ


2. Calzaghe

3. Ward