ATG at 168: RJJ, Calzaghe, Ward?

I doubt 90% would know Veit as it was some time ago now. You would be in gthat 90% and are looking very ignorant at this time commenting on a fighter you dont know. Here someone compared Green and Veit and like you didnt know the full story atsch.
Shame you only started watching the SMW since the S6:yep

 

It used to be. In 05 we had undefeated Calzaghe, undefeated Kessler, undefeated Lacy and 3 time WBC champ Beyer.
As it unfolded Calzaghe beat Lacy, Kessler beat Beyer and Calzaghe beat Kessler.

 

Prime definately goes to Jones Jnr, however i'm a massive Calzaghe fan and the theory behind Jones being juiced up bothers me! So i'd rank it Calzaghe, Jones Jnr then Ward but Ward could eclispe everything, but his got to match Calzaghe which is along way ahead.

 

Well you think Veit is great win so there is many names at least good as Veit so Ward can beat fighters of Veits class...can beat Bute, Hopkins...division is not worse then it was in Clazaghe time, he is the best in this young division because he dedicated his whole career to it, very soon there will be fighters surpassing Joe, now go to boxrec and answer.

 

GOnna be fantasti to see it unfold. Ward or Bute both have potential to be ATG. But Ward will have that rown at 168 in time .

 

The Boxrec Warrior is hard at work I see lol

 

RJJ
Ward
Calzaghe

 

most able head to head? - Jones by a fair margin - bearing in mind what he accomplished ni hisentire career vastly outweights the resumes of Ward and Cal.
most accomplished at that weight? - Calzaghe - but bear in mind few boxers wanted to stay in a post-embryonic SMW division.
One most likely to become the most accomplished SMW ever shortly - Ward, his resume is already better than Calzaghe in terms of quality, not yet volume.

Ottke? - back to school, fool. good effort obscured by joke results.

 

I wonder if Sven Ottke reads this forum?

It must be well depressing for him, reading how almost the whole world completely ignore his efforts (rather judiciously) lol. He might yet be driven to drink, the poor soul. I mean, it must be **** to put in effort all your young life thinking you are some cool ATG and then the bubble bursts and you are forced to realise you are really a bit of a joke. (yep! i know the feeling lol).

 

I thought you couldnt see my posts because Im supposed to be on your ignore atsch.
I notice you are too scared to tackle the subjects wimp.

What you can do is post Bailey is on your ignore, like a wet blanket

 

atsch
you think Wards resume is better in terms of quality when his best win is a Calzaghe victim atsch. Froch hasnt beaten a SMW champ (except very faded Reid) or top SMW and only won vacant titles, one being Calzaghes.
Wards other big win was Calzaghe victim Bika .

You really dont know the division at all past the S6

 

well I think I do know that the super six was a tournie of average quality greater than Cals defences. And bear in mind thats partially non title fights exceeding quality of title defences. There were no actual tv show fighters in the Super Six, for starters. I think Glen went into one late inhis career.


so I stand by what I say, without a need for a smilie to validate my point. cheers. I am in no way knocking Cal's career as being the best yet at SMW, and Ward may yet lack the mental self discipline needed to go several more years in title fights - that was Cals greatest asset

 

Calzaghe
Jones
Ward

Calzaghe, with his 46 victories,undefeated.
Jones is now a legend

Ward has to fight a« skilled undefeated» like Buté if he want to access to ATG status.
His victory over Froch was predictable, all the bets gived him a clear advantage. He was not making a statement. And I don't compare his victory over Kessler to Calzaghe's win:
Kessler was at this time undefeated and with Ward, he was coming back from inactivity, no big fight after his lost from Calzaghe, so he had not rebuild his confidence.

Concerning Kessler's double-vision problems. When Kessler was at Montreal for the Buté-Macgee fight, I remembered that journalists asked to him to talk about his eye's problems.
a journalist bring back that at this moment that a man from Sauerland's team ( maybe Sauerland's son) said at Kessler's ear: « Don't tell that your problem has begin with the Ward's fight!»
So, great chances that the Kessler's eye problem was a direct consequence from Ward's
multiple headbutts.

If Ward wants to be a ATG, he has to clean his boxing . When Ward fights outside Oakland, we have seen that the man can plays it clean but at his hometown, it is quite dirty...with poor referee.

 

This.

Plus Froch was proven to be the slowest supposed top rate sme ever, and he won 40% of the fight against Ward, then Bika nearly, very nearly beat Ward. add to that Boone did beat Ward on everything but paper, Ward is lookig more and more like the next Pavlik/Chad Dawson.atsch:dead