ATG at 168: RJJ, Calzaghe, Ward?

So you couldnt answer atsch. Now thats self ownage and a fail. Im surprised you are not ashamed to keep posting when you cant debate a fact.
I will have to rename you Aurafail21 The stalker :dead

 

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Who do you think would win this match up.
Jones vs Froch
Froch who Ward beat or Jones who Calzaghe beat?

People say Jones was shot but he was able to completely dominate and stop Lacy after Calzaghe, whilst J Taylor won clearly against Lacy but suffered a non counted KD. Taylor was giving Froch fits.
Jones was alot faster, had a better workrate and is a harder hitter, he also has better skills and reflexes even if you say hes shot.

I think that version of Jones would beat Froch but even if many agree, they will deny this as it blows alot of their points out of the water

 

lol im sure Failey is still obsessed with me. continue on troll.

 

Auracle AKA Baileys Stalker has self pwned again atsch
Look at his last post below and then look at all the others and remember this was all within one day

Whos obsessed with who. Auracle21 also claims Im on his ignore list :yep

All of this came about when Auracle got schooled and couldnt win a debate. Looks like the wounds run deep

 

at 168?

Calzaghe
Jones
Ward

 

h2h:
Jones
Ward
Calzaghe

Resume:
Calzaghe
Ward
Jones

I think Ward will move to the top of the resume list in a year or so.

 

I agree Ward will be tops in resume soon enough. He has the potential to be an ATG.

 

easy

RJJ
Calzaghe
Ward

 

I agree. Who do you think he needs to beat to top Calzaghe's resume?

So far its:
Calzaghe's best smw wins:Kessler, Lacy, Eubank (past prime)
Ward's best wins: Froch, Kessler

 

RJJ
Calzaghe
Ward

Given that Ward has a lot of work to do, I expect him to surpass both Jones and Calzaghe...He's on par to take the crown.

 

You forget the rest of Calzaghes resume. Its not just made up of those wins. Reid, Woodhall, Mitchell, Veit, Brewer were all SMW champs at some point also. Reid looked unlucky not to have beaten Ottke, then you have all of the other top 10 SMWs Calzaghe beat Sheika, Starie, Bika, Mkertchyan etc.
Beating Kessler already beaten by Calzaghe isnt as equal as undefeated Kessler

 

You say Eubank was past prime but he was the same age as Kessler when Ward beat him, the same age as Bute is now and younger than Froch.
Wards win over Kessler is far better than Froch. Froch hasnt beaten any top SMW or SMW champ

Compare Kessler and Eubank

It was Wards 21st fight, Ward was 25
It was Calzaghes 23rd fight, Calzaghe was 25

Ward won at home
Calzaghe won away

When Ward beat Kessler, Kessler was 42-1-0
When Calzaghe beat Eubank, Eubank was 45-2-2

Kessler was 31
Eubank was 31

Kessler was 8-1 in world title fights
Eubank was 17-2-2 in world title fights

It was just under 3 years since Kessler beat a world rated opponent
It was just under 3 years since Eubank beat a world rated opponent

Kessler had only fought 3 completed rounds in 1 fight in a year before fighting Ward
Eubank had only fought 7 completed rounds in 2 fights in a year before fighting Calzaghe

Kesslers only loss was clear
Eubanks 2 losses - first was very close (debateable) the second was a SD, to the same fighter.

Kessler was favourite to win.
100 years of Boxing News claims Calzaghe was underdog, I have read Calzaghe was underdog but some posters claim he was betting favourite, though.

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Notes Eubank was a strong favourite, but dont know where the site got its info.

Both Ward and Calzaghe had dominant performances with Calzaghe scoring 2 KDs.

After the loss Kessler beat undefeated WBC champ Froch
After the loss Eubank fought WBO CW champ Thompson and lost a close decision scoring a KD. Eubank fought a return with the bigger Thompson and lost on injury when ahead. Thompson was a CW and the only fighter to have beaten D Haye.

I have read how people on ESB say Eubank was shot so -
How far past prime was Eubank to you then?
Eubank had lost a close decision to Collins, that many thought he won, had a couple of tune ups and rematched Collins to a SD, had a couple of tune ups and lost clearly to underdog Calzaghe. After that loss Eubank went up to CW and challenged world champ Thompson losing a very close decision and then rematched Thompson losing on injury when ahead. Thats Thompson who years later past his best KOd D Haye.
Consider Eubank only had 2 losses to one fighter when he fought Calzaghe, the second by SD to a world champ and was 31 then went on to challenge a big CW flooring him etc, how past his prime do YOU think he was?
Remember Kessler is Wards big win and was the same age as Eubank here and had around the same amount of fights, so is Kessler shot as well, because Kessler has a serious eye problems and was an unwell double vision suffering fighter who has been inactive for a while now due to his injury


Remember when you make silly comments about losses was G Johnson considered past his prime when years ago after losing to Hopkins he went 7-9-2 including the Hopkins loss

 

Eubank was pst his prime but a decent win nonethelss. I agree that with a win over Bute he will be king. I mean imagine him taking on dirrell and bute. gonna be intersting but he is well on his way to SMW greatness.

 

Hows Ward on par?
Ward hasnt beaten anyone as good as undefeated Kessler, Reid or Eubank.
In fact Mitchell arguably has a better resume at SMW than Froch, and then Lacy is debateable to Froch also. Woodhall also has a good SMW resume and Veits is better than Abrahams

 

Dirrell hasnt beaten anyone at SMW. Nobody.

How was Eubank past his best?
How far past prime was Eubank to you then?
Eubank had lost a close decision to Collins, that many thought he won, had a couple of tune ups and rematched Collins to a SD, had a couple of tune ups and lost clearly to underdog Calzaghe. After that loss Eubank went up to CW and challenged world champ Thompson losing a very close decision and then rematched Thompson losing on injury when ahead. Thats Thompson who years later past his best KOd D Haye.
Consider Eubank only had 2 losses to one fighter when he fought Calzaghe, the second by SD to a world champ and was 31 then went on to challenge a big CW flooring him etc, how past his prime do YOU think he was?