ATG at 168: RJJ, Calzaghe, Ward?

What's great is that he can be the greatest SMW of all time and then go on to be amazing at Light Heavyweight.

 

Cant argue that...Plus its only a matter of time before he unify the division to establish himself as the man of the division.

IMO, when its all said and done...He's gonna do great things in the future.

 

21 SMW title defences WBO IBF WBC WBA SMW titles,
- Kessler (WBC WBA undefeated champ) undefeated and not suffering double vision
- Lacy (IBF undefeated champ) Americas next big thing and mini Tyson
- Eubank one of the greatest SMWs ever and beaten at the same age as Kessler when Ward beat him and same age as Bute now
- Mitchell 2 time WBA SMW champ and only ever beaten clearly at SMW by Calzaghe, many felt Mitchell had beaten Ottke
- Reid who many felt beat Ottke, beat undefeated Magee now WBA int champ
- Woodhall who fought Beyer to a close decision, beat future WBC SMW champ Catley
- Veit (WBO int champ 45-1 only beaten by Calzaghe) who was only beaten by world champs or fighters who became and has a win over undefeated 27-0 Braehmer
- Brewer former SMW champ
- Bika who nearly beat Ward years later
- Starie who beat undefeated future LHW champ Woods
- Sheika when top 10 and coming off a win over G Johnson
- Mkertchyan who became European SMW champ beating 26-0 world rated Chanet

Thats going to take some beating

- Kessler already beaten by Calzaghe
- Froch who has only won vacant titles, one being one Calzaghe threw away, the other being one a Calzaghe victim threw away and never beaten a top SMW
- Bika beaten clearer by Calzaghe
- Abraham coming off 2 clear S6 losses and done nothing at SMW
- Green beaten by old SMW journeyman Johnson


Anyone who really thinks Wards on par and close to bettering Calzaghe is either very bias or plain stupid.

 

Yeah its gonna be fun. He has all the talent in the world. He is on a great path right now. Undefeated, super six champ, and a gold medalist. And to think this could just be the beginning.

 

Exactly, he isnt waiting on fighters to get old or a former shell of themselves unlike some past fighters.

 

Only top fighter he ever beat in their prime . . . only solid win on resume no matter how you try and spin it:deal

But I really do not care about Calslappy so I am out:bart

 

I think a MAJOR point is that Calzaghe left a blueprint for Ward in Kessler!!
Ward is a great fighter and could succeed Calzaghe but his a long way off.

 

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21 SMW title defences WBO IBF WBC WBA SMW titles,
- Kessler (WBC WBA undefeated champ) undefeated and not suffering double vision
- Lacy (IBF undefeated champ) Americas next big thing and mini Tyson
- Eubank one of the greatest SMWs ever and beaten at the same age as Kessler when Ward beat him and same age as Bute now
- Mitchell 2 time WBA SMW champ and only ever beaten clearly at SMW by Calzaghe, many felt Mitchell had beaten Ottke
- Reid who many felt beat Ottke, beat undefeated Magee now WBA int champ
- Woodhall who fought Beyer to a close decision, beat future WBC SMW champ Catley
- Veit (WBO int champ 45-1 only beaten by Calzaghe) who was only beaten by world champs or fighters who became and has a win over undefeated 27-0 Braehmer
- Brewer former SMW champ
- Bika who nearly beat Ward years later
- Starie who beat undefeated future LHW champ Woods
- Sheika when top 10 and coming off a win over G Johnson
- Mkertchyan who became European SMW champ beating 26-0 world rated Chanet

Thats going to take some beating

- Kessler already beaten by Calzaghe
- Froch who has only won vacant titles, one being one Calzaghe threw away, the other being one a Calzaghe victim threw away and never beaten a top SMW
- Bika beaten clearer by Calzaghe
- Abraham coming off 2 clear S6 losses and done nothing at SMW
- Green beaten by old SMW journeyman Johnson


Anyone who really thinks Wards on par and close to bettering Calzaghe is either very bias or plain stupid.

 

NICE

 

Every fighters takes on big challanges on their way up. It's when they are at the top the ducking and cherrypicking starts.

Ward is doing well, but it is to early to say what he is made of. There are signs of mumbo jumbo from his camp already, and he practicly unified his two belts yesterday.

 

How was Kessler the only one in his prime? Lacy was prime, Mitchell was prime, Reid was prime, theres no spin on that, just you trying to twist the truth
Still Looks terrible on Ward then as his win is over a past prime Kessler suffering double vision and Kessler was the same age as Eubank, done less and Bute the same age now as Eubank was

 

i can't believe you left out Hopkins, as he although old, is in my eyes his best win, especially due to Hopkins schooling many fighters of late.

 

Calslappy always prevail. It is his destiny. Expect Ward to suffer a fluke KO'loss along the way, and thuse shrink in the shadowns of Sir Joe for always. I will be hear gloating about it

 

I left out Hopkins because I was sticking to SMW as it would be unfair on Ward as he hasnt progressed into a different weight division even though his fans think he has already unified LHW.

I could say Jones also as he was #6 LHW and coming in off 3 wins but many say he was totally shot, still answer this question

Who do you think would win this match up.
Jones vs Froch
Froch who Ward beat or Jones who Calzaghe beat?

People say Jones was shot but he was able to completely dominate and stop Lacy after Calzaghe, whilst J Taylor won clearly against Lacy but suffered a non counted KD. Taylor was giving Froch fits.
Jones was alot faster, had a better workrate and is a harder hitter, he also has better skills and reflexes even if you say hes shot.

I think that version of Jones would beat Froch but even if many agree, they will deny this as it blows alot of their points out of the water

 

Yes that's true but at that time Beyer fought Kessler was past his prime and by the time Lacy was champion Otke was faded too.