ATG at 168: RJJ, Calzaghe, Ward?

I think you will find Auracle is telling you lies. He says im on his ignore yet will post an answer and try and look indirect. Truth is he has been schooled and cant counter any points, so is bitter at being owned. Problem is he self pwns by answering and pretending otherwise. He will pos again soon but with no counter points, similar to yourself
You Rudyard also seem butthurt. ou say bias, but if you could prove where I was bias you would answer.

Whats bias with this

21 SMW title defences WBO IBF WBC WBA SMW titles,
- Kessler (WBC WBA undefeated champ) undefeated and not suffering double vision
- Lacy (IBF undefeated champ) Americas next big thing and mini Tyson
- Eubank one of the greatest SMWs ever and beaten at the same age as Kessler when Ward beat him and same age as Bute now
- Mitchell 2 time WBA SMW champ and only ever beaten clearly at SMW by Calzaghe, many felt Mitchell had beaten Ottke
- Reid who many felt beat Ottke, beat undefeated Magee now WBA int champ
- Woodhall who fought Beyer to a close decision, beat future WBC SMW champ Catley
- Veit (WBO int champ 45-1 only beaten by Calzaghe) who was only beaten by world champs or fighters who became and has a win over undefeated 27-0 Braehmer
- Brewer former SMW champ
- Bika who nearly beat Ward years later
- Starie who beat undefeated future LHW champ Woods
- Sheika when top 10 and coming off a win over G Johnson
- Mkertchyan who became European SMW champ beating 26-0 world rated Chanet

Thats going to take some beating

- Kessler already beaten by Calzaghe
- Froch who has only won vacant titles, one being one Calzaghe threw away, the other being one a Calzaghe victim threw away and never beaten a top SMW
- Bika beaten clearer by Calzaghe
- Abraham coming off 2 clear S6 losses and done nothing at SMW
- Green beaten by old SMW journeyman Johnson

 

haha he has never watched a fight a day in his life. he is the boxrec warrior haha. he is gonna keep trying and owning himself. lol its too funny.

 

I never said broke hand. Where have I put that.
In fact Calzaghe was under stress before the fight with Reid supporters causing trouble, someone even put glass in Calzaghes food and drink before the fight. Did you know that?

What I did say was

How do you think it was a draw with Reid?
Ask yourself this. How could you not score rounds 2, 3, 4,7, 8 (

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), 12 to Calzaghe? Remember Reid had a point deducted also.

I thought like 2 judges that Calzaghe was a clear winner and except for McCrory who scored a draw and later seemed to agree all of the other studio guest scored wide for Calzaghe including Mcguigan and Eubank. I also think damaged handed (damaged his hand in round 4) Calzaghe won and felt he won rounds 1, 9 (Reid did land the punch of the night in round 9 though) & 11.

Good away win for Calzaghe

Tell me which of those noted you scored for Reid as I dont know anyone when asked to score those rounds that say Reid they have all said Calzaghe for those rounds

 

Eubank is a bigger name than both Kessler and Froch, but it seems like he was on the decline when he faced Joe. Head to head it is probably very hard to say if a prime Reid is a tougher figth than Kessler or Froch. Roughly, I would rate them as equal.

Ward is also an olympic gold medallist, and has fought a couple of other decent opponents, like Bika and Miranda. Al together he closes in on Joe rapidly.

I dont like Ward to be honest, and even less so his trainer, so I would enjoy to see him lose. I just dont expect it to happen.

 

Long time ago, I'm not in a hurry to watch an old fight again, but I had it even and I am not the only one.

Some feel Reid got robbed but I dont - it was a draw for me.

NOT on any planet was it a 'good away win for Calzaghe'. You seem to be looking at this through Calzaghe-tinted spectacles, to be fair to you. Do you not realise the damage you do to your posts when writing in that manner. You are better off saynig it is what it is - a scraped lucky decision against a fine boxer.

Obviously I dont know about glass in his food, sorry it happened - but if I ate glass and was supposed to fighting for a title the next day or week then I would bloody well postpone the fight till I was better, not use it as an excuse to explain away a poor performance. Anyone would do the same.

I understand in the case of damaged hands, however, boxers do fight on through the adrenaline of the moment. But carrying a proper damaged hand through a whole fight would instil any sensible fighter to do something about it - 12 rounds is a long time for adrenaline to block the pain enough for you to realise you are ruining your hand. Personally it sounds like Cal didnt want to look bad - and he realised he got found out by a good opponent, so he instantly went back to fighting lower grade opposition.

 

You try to hard.

 

Calzaghe - Great fighter, weak resume, career SMW
Jones - Better fighter, weaker resume at SMW
Ward - Great fighter, decent resume, not enough notable wins to overcome either.

 

Nothing to try, they are presented facts. You tell me otherwise

 

atsch You say Calzaghe has a weak resume and Ward has a decent resume, when Wards best win is Kessler when rusty and suffering double vision, who Calzaghe beat when undefeated.
Wards next best win is probably Froch who was beaten by unwell Kessler coming off a loss.
Then Bika who Calzaghe beat clearer previously.

Calzaghe also has wins over Eubank, Mitchell, Lacy who all have better SMW resumes than Froch. Even Reid & Woodhall has a competable resumes to Froch then Calzaghe has also beaten Brewer and Veit both SMW champs as well

 

Calzaghe
Jones
Ward

 

None of those guys were any good.
Brewer and Reid were journeyman
Mitchell was a fringe contender, coming off a loss
Veit was a nobody
What is Woodhall's best win? Malinga? Nardeillo?

That should tell you how good Ottke was. Especially if he needed a corrupt ref and judges to beat a journeyman/moonlighting pornstar

Bika at best is B level, the rest were journeymen.

It doesnt work like that.
It was the same Kessler who Calzaghe beat.

 

A fighters prime does not always go hand in hand with their chronological age. It corresponds with the amount of wear and tear they have had in their career, which is why a guy like Benetiz was shot at around 25.

Eubank was finished as a world class fighter after Watson II. After that he just racked up dubious wins over c level compeition until he lost twice to Collins.

He had clearly outgrown the smw division by Collins II and had no business taking the Calzaghe fight at 11 days notice.

His record for his last three fights is 0-3.

It's a B level win for Calzaghe, and I'm being generous