ATG BANTAMWEIGHT TOURNIE: QF 3 - EDER JOFRE TKO9 LIONEL ROSE

Even though Rose beat Harada, the guy who bested Jofre twice, styles make fights. Rose was able to tame a charging bull like Harada with his speed and movement, but Jofre was a different animal, a much more patient fighter who knew when to switch gears. Rose does well early on until Jofre picks up the pace, slowing down Rose with bodyshots, and grinds out to win by decision. Jofre was a very versatile, adaptable, and clever fighter.

 

It’s competitive early as Rose is boxing and moving, while Jofre is taking his time but then he catches up to him around 7-8 and takes him out. I can see it even through 6 then Eder starts taking control and he’s beating him up around the 8th and then it’s a matter of how long can Rose hang. Not to hear the bell I think.

I think Rose wouldn’t have beaten the Harada from a year or two prior the way I don’t think Harada beats the Jofre from a year or two prior. Rose himself should t be judged by the Olivares fight because he himself was then killing hi self at the scale.

 

I agree with both of you.

 

Jofre knocks Rose out in about 7-9.

 

I have to go with Jofre by decision. As other's have mentioned, Rose's style worked well against a great pressure fighter in Harada, but Jofre was a superb boxer-puncher who I see dictating the pace of the fight, wearing down Rose on the inside with his body punches and boxing smoothly. I think Rose's mobility could help get off to a strong start before Jofre starts to take over.

 

Rose was one beautiful fighter to watch but you can't compare the 'struggling to make weight' Jofre of '65-'66 to the younger '60-'62 version. I think the peak Jofre stops Rose late in the bout. A very competitive bout I might add.

 

Jofre SD. I think some here are underestimating just how good Rose was on his best night. Still, picking against a prime Jofre, especially with a talented but inconsistent fighter ala Rose, is a tough ask. I think Jofre would struggle quite a bit early, before fully adapting around the mid to late rounds, blunting Rose's sharp edge and strength with his own creative mind, generalship and power punching.

 

What rough and scar said basically. Jofre's power, timing and offensive creativity would probably eventually break Rose late in the fight or allow Jofre to overhaul him, but I think he'd spot Lionel a sizeable lead through 7 or 8 rounds and take a fair stretch of time to adjust to Rose 's speed, size, strength, wingspan and smooth movement. It took him 11 rounds to take out Jamito, 10 to take out Caldwell and Marques, 9 to take out Rollo etc, though a Caraballo/Aoki type scenario is a slenderish possibility I suppose where their talent was briefly on display but Jofres crippling body punching just put them on the back foot very quickly and caved them in.

Rose is a live dog even though I've picked Jofre, I get where Matt is coming from.

 

I like Jofre. I think his own jab, used while coming forward ( of course) sets up a lot of those long punches of his that will start landing around the 6th or so. After that, with the range found Jofre steps up the pace and stops him around the 11th.

 

Super hard fight to pick, but I reckon Jofre can do a bit of what Castillo did but a bit more oomph: defensively responsible, aggressive counter puncher, and able to vary up the speed of his shots to hook around Rose or move him towards his right hand.

Close fight IMO, but I'll take Jofre by decision.

 

I don't even think Rose makes a great start. That reflexive based defense where he sort of catch and shoots or uses his height to make his opponent just fall short won't be as effective against the Golden one.
Eder wasn't the fastest or hardest hitting the division has seen but he was above average in every field and came in great shape every time. He had a great boxing brain, knowing when to attack and when to be patient.

I think Jofre controls it from the first bell and gets progressively more dominant only dropping a round here and there.
I think a sharp and not struggling with the weight Rose makes the rounds but takes a proper pasting and may get dropped once or twice for a wide decision win for Eder.