ATG fighters of the last 20 yeas?

I use my eyes to judge fighters.

Wlad's resume is ****. What the hell are you talking about? And why are you bringing up the amateurs? Who gives a ****? A-Force won the Gold Medal.

Wladimir hasn't even mastered every punch, yet he's superior? Vitali is just better. Wlad would have been destroyed in that fight with Lewis. He has nowhere near that sort of resolve. As soon as Lewis landed anything worth of note, Wlad would go into a defense shell or fall on the ground.

He cannot take a punch. He may be more athletic and faster, but due to his chin and his tendency to fold under pressure, he has to fight with a style predicated around protecting his chin at all costs.

And for you to discount James Toney, easily one of the most skilled fighters in BOXING HISTORY, shows where you stand on your knowledge of actual boxing skills.

 

Don King

 

Mayweather, Pacquiao, Roy, Hopkins, Whitaker, young Klitschko, Holyfield, Tyson, Lewis, Chavez, Barerra, Morales....

Are we counting guys who fought past 1990? In that case you have obvious legends from the 70s and 80s who dragged on.

 

goddamn, that post is all kinds of wrong. i'm gonna skip all that boxrec **** you quoted.

"toney had some skills"

some skills? you talk up wlad and say toney has "some skills"? get the fuk outta here right now. that is just a straight up garbage statement. toney was a purist's dream fighter, his flaws weren't skills. there are loads of toney fights on youtube, perhaps you should check one of them out.

he beat Griffin both times, idiot. or at LEAST once, if you know how to score. jesus christ, you proved how much you knew right there.

"If Wlad continues on his current path, he will be held in MUCH higher regard than Toney in terms of all time great status."

oh yeah i'm sure he will. because he's had such classics like toney vs. jirov or one of the greatest chess matches ever like toney vs. mccallum I.

 

Good post, imo vitali beats wlad h2h but wlad has proven himself more against fighters and has better hw legacy.

 

amatuers dont count for **** when determining legacy as a pro.

 

Man de ja vu

 

Wlad will go down as the All-Time Most Boring Heavyweight Champion. Or, "The man who single-handedly made heavyweight championship fights not be broadcast due to boredom." He's not an all-time great.

Guys who are: Holyfield, Mosley, Forrest, Lewis, Hopkins, Barrera.

 

Whoever said Vitali is the more exciting brother is, technically right. But it's like choosing between paint drying and grass growing.

 

J Calzaghe
D Michalczewski
Z Erdei
S Ottke
D Haye
W Klitschko
V Klitschko
L Lewis
N Hamed

To name a few

 

dough dewitt
prince charles
reggie johnson
mike macallum
michael nunn
iran barkley
merqui sosa
vasli jirov
all world champs at one time before lights out beat them any one who thinks james aint one of the best of our era an all time great dont know **** about boxing

 

Lewis
Pac
FMJ
Wlad
Jones Jr.
MAB
Morales
Whitaker
Dela Hoya
Chavez Sr.

in no particular order

 

Pongsaklek Wonjongkam

 

Dinamita
El terrible
Baby face assassin
Pacman
Golden Boy
Money
Thunder from down under.

 

Roy Jones
Lennox Lewis
Mike Tyson
Evander Holyfield
Manny Pacquaio
Pernell Whitaker
Julio Cesar Chavez
Bernard Hopkins
Marco Antonio Barerra
Oscar De La Hoya
Floyd Mayweather



fighters who just fall short, or can be considered by some to be ATG's. I'm still on the edge if i consider them ATG's or not. More than likely i will consider them ATG's but the fighters above qualify more so.

Erik Morales
James Toney