Do your ATG lists consist of 100 fighters or more? If it is 100, who in the last 20 years has dropped from the list and who has replaced them? Or does the ATG include more than the best 100 fighters ever?
I dont have a list but I never got the 100 fighters limit some have, in 80 years there will be much more atg and easily more than 100, should some stop being an atg then? certainly not.
1. Sugar Ray Robinson 2. Henry Armstrong 3. Muhammad Ali 4. Sam Langford 5. Roberto Duran 6. Willie Pep 7. Harry Greb 8. Sugar Ray Leonard 9. Benny Leonard 10. Joe Louis 11. Ezzard Charles 12. Archie Moore 13. Pernell Whitaker 14. Roy Jones Jr 15. Joe Gans 16. Thomas Hearns 17. Marvin Hagler 18. Bernard Hopkins 19. Carlos Monzon 20. Sandy Saddler 21. Floyd Mayweather JR 22. Manny Pacquiao 23. Jimmy Wilde 24. Carlos Ortiz 25. Julio Cesar Chavez 26. Barney Ross 27. Tony Canzoneri 28. Bob Fitzsimmons 29. Jose Napoles 30. Emile Grifith 31. Jimmy Mclarnin 32. Terry Mcgovern 33. Pancho Villa 34. Larry Holmes 35. Evander Holyfield 36. Charlie Burley 37. Wilfredo Benitez 38. Jack Johnson 39. Jack Dempsey 40. Eder Jofre 41. Stanley Ketchel 42. Mickey Walker 43. Alexis Arguello 44. Jake Lamotta 45. George Foreman 46. Ruben Olivares 47. Bob Foster 48. Wilfredo Gomez 49. Erik Morales 50. Marco Antonio Barrera close calls: Gene Tunney Salvador Sanchez Oscar De La Hoya Juan Manuel Marquez Kid Gavilan Billy Conn Fighting Harada Ted Kid Lewis Philadekphia Jack O'brien Marcel Cerdan Mike Tyson Floyd Patterson This is my top 50.....haven't tried a top 100.....maybe sometime....in order to be considered an all time great I would think you'd have to be at least top 100.
wow, another really close one for me. can't believe I overlooked him, I feel like an idiot. upon further review he does crack the top 50 for sure....I feel like I'm missing someone else.... here's the fixed list: 1. Sugar Ray Robinson 2. Henry Armstrong 3. Muhammad Ali 4. Sam Langford 5. Roberto Duran 6. Willie Pep 7. Harry Greb 8. Sugar Ray Leonard 9. Benny Leonard 10. Joe Louis 11. Ezzard Charles 12. Archie Moore 13. Pernell Whitaker 14. Roy Jones Jr 15. Joe Gans 16. Thomas Hearns 17. Marvin Hagler 18. Bernard Hopkins 19. Carlos Monzon 20. Sandy Saddler 21. Floyd Mayweather JR 22. Manny Pacquiao 23. Jimmy Wilde 24. Carlos Ortiz 25. Julio Cesar Chavez 26. Barney Ross 27. Tony Canzoneri 28. Bob Fitzsimmons 29. Jose Napoles 30. Emile Grifith 31. Jimmy Mclarnin 32. Terry Mcgovern 33. Pancho Villa 34. Larry Holmes 35. Evander Holyfield 36. Charlie Burley 37. Wilfredo Benitez 38. Jack Johnson 39. Jack Dempsey 40. Eder Jofre 41. Stanley Ketchel 42. Mickey Walker 43. Alexis Arguello 44. Jake Lamotta 45. Lennox Lewis 46. George Foreman 47. Ruben Olivares 48. Bob Foster 49. Wilfredo Gomez 50. Erik Morales close calls: Marco Antonio Barrera Gene Tunney Salvador Sanchez Oscar De La Hoya Juan Manuel Marquez Kid Gavilan Billy Conn Fighting Harada Ted Kid Lewis Philadekphia Jack O'brien Marcel Cerdan Mike Tyson Floyd Patterson
I took a couple weeks like 5 years ago and I've been making additions/subtractions/changes ever since(depending on current fighters moving up as well as me gaining more knowledge of certain past fighters and rating them higher or lower based on that). But in reality it took 10+ years of reading a ton of boxing books and watching everything there is to watch on past fighters to be able to make it in the first place.
I honestly wouldn't have him top 50....if i made a top 100 i'm guessing he'd be close to cracking top 75
I generally consider my top 50 I have typed up as my "ATG's", but it probably includes 60-70 fighters.
That is a good list T-bag. Mine is 1. Robinson 2. Ali 3. Joe Louis 4. Roy Jones 5. JC Chavez 6. Henry Armstrong 7. Benny Leonard 8. Willie Pep 9. Archie Moore 10, Ray Leonard 11. Barney Ross 12. Roberto Duran 13. Marvin Hagler 14. Harry Greb 15. Jack Johnson 16. Sandy Saddler 17. Jack Dempsey 18. Jimmy Wilde 19. Mickey walker 20. Carlos Monzon 21. Rocky Marciano 22. Pernell Whitaker 23. Alexis Arguello 24. Joe Gans 25. Bernard Hopkins 26. Tony Canzoneri 27. Gene Tunney 28. Ricardo Lopez 29. Ezzard CHarles 30. Bob Foster 31. Evander Holyfield 32. Sam Langford 33. Emile Griffith 34. Eder Jofre 35. Stanley Ketchel 36. Floyd Mayweather 37. Carlos Ortiz 38. Mike Tyson 39. Thomas Hearns 40. Aaron Pryor 41. Shane Mosely 42. Pascual Perez 43. Joe Frazier 44. Manny Pacquiao 45. Oscar De la hoya 46. Jose Napoles 47. Tommy Lougheran 48. Wilfredo Gomez 49. Micheal Spinks 50. Lennox Lewis Keith