ATG list, 100 fighters?

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  1. Damien

    Damien Member Full Member

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    Do your ATG lists consist of 100 fighters or more?

    If it is 100, who in the last 20 years has dropped from the list and who has replaced them?

    Or does the ATG include more than the best 100 fighters ever?
     
  2. Julien Sorel

    Julien Sorel New Member Full Member

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    I dont have a list but I never got the 100 fighters limit some have, in 80 years there will be much more atg and easily more than 100, should some stop being an atg then? certainly not.
     
  3. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    2. Henry Armstrong
    3. Muhammad Ali
    4. Sam Langford
    5. Roberto Duran
    6. Willie Pep
    7. Harry Greb
    8. Sugar Ray Leonard
    9. Benny Leonard
    10. Joe Louis

    11. Ezzard Charles
    12. Archie Moore
    13. Pernell Whitaker
    14. Roy Jones Jr
    15. Joe Gans
    16. Thomas Hearns
    17. Marvin Hagler
    18. Bernard Hopkins
    19. Carlos Monzon
    20. Sandy Saddler


    21. Floyd Mayweather JR
    22. Manny Pacquiao
    23. Jimmy Wilde
    24. Carlos Ortiz
    25. Julio Cesar Chavez
    26. Barney Ross
    27. Tony Canzoneri
    28. Bob Fitzsimmons
    29. Jose Napoles
    30. Emile Grifith

    31. Jimmy Mclarnin
    32. Terry Mcgovern
    33. Pancho Villa
    34. Larry Holmes
    35. Evander Holyfield
    36. Charlie Burley
    37. Wilfredo Benitez
    38. Jack Johnson
    39. Jack Dempsey
    40. Eder Jofre

    41. Stanley Ketchel
    42. Mickey Walker
    43. Alexis Arguello
    44. Jake Lamotta
    45. George Foreman
    46. Ruben Olivares
    47. Bob Foster
    48. Wilfredo Gomez
    49. Erik Morales
    50. Marco Antonio Barrera

    close calls:

    Gene Tunney
    Salvador Sanchez
    Oscar De La Hoya
    Juan Manuel Marquez
    Kid Gavilan
    Billy Conn
    Fighting Harada
    Ted Kid Lewis
    Philadekphia Jack O'brien
    Marcel Cerdan
    Mike Tyson
    Floyd Patterson





    This is my top 50.....haven't tried a top 100.....maybe sometime....in order to be considered an all time great I would think you'd have to be at least top 100.
     
  4. jan_fan

    jan_fan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Does the 2 really need to have date on each other on every list? :yep
     
  5. LikeIsedb4

    LikeIsedb4 Member Full Member

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    may n pac are higher then jones but good list
     
  6. LikeIsedb4

    LikeIsedb4 Member Full Member

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    you dont think lennox is top 50 ?
     
  7. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    wow, another really close one for me. can't believe I overlooked him, I feel like an idiot. upon further review he does crack the top 50 for sure....I feel like I'm missing someone else.... here's the fixed list:





    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    2. Henry Armstrong
    3. Muhammad Ali
    4. Sam Langford
    5. Roberto Duran
    6. Willie Pep
    7. Harry Greb
    8. Sugar Ray Leonard
    9. Benny Leonard
    10. Joe Louis

    11. Ezzard Charles
    12. Archie Moore
    13. Pernell Whitaker
    14. Roy Jones Jr
    15. Joe Gans
    16. Thomas Hearns
    17. Marvin Hagler
    18. Bernard Hopkins
    19. Carlos Monzon
    20. Sandy Saddler


    21. Floyd Mayweather JR
    22. Manny Pacquiao
    23. Jimmy Wilde
    24. Carlos Ortiz
    25. Julio Cesar Chavez
    26. Barney Ross
    27. Tony Canzoneri
    28. Bob Fitzsimmons
    29. Jose Napoles
    30. Emile Grifith

    31. Jimmy Mclarnin
    32. Terry Mcgovern
    33. Pancho Villa
    34. Larry Holmes
    35. Evander Holyfield
    36. Charlie Burley
    37. Wilfredo Benitez
    38. Jack Johnson
    39. Jack Dempsey
    40. Eder Jofre

    41. Stanley Ketchel
    42. Mickey Walker
    43. Alexis Arguello
    44. Jake Lamotta
    45. Lennox Lewis
    46. George Foreman
    47. Ruben Olivares
    48. Bob Foster
    49. Wilfredo Gomez
    50. Erik Morales



    close calls:

    Marco Antonio Barrera
    Gene Tunney
    Salvador Sanchez
    Oscar De La Hoya
    Juan Manuel Marquez
    Kid Gavilan
    Billy Conn
    Fighting Harada
    Ted Kid Lewis
    Philadekphia Jack O'brien
    Marcel Cerdan
    Mike Tyson
    Floyd Patterson
     
  8. Rexrapper 1

    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good list. How long did it take you to make that list?
     
  9. LikeIsedb4

    LikeIsedb4 Member Full Member

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    ricardo lopez deserves a mention i dont know about top 50 thoe
     
  10. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I took a couple weeks like 5 years ago and I've been making additions/subtractions/changes ever since(depending on current fighters moving up as well as me gaining more knowledge of certain past fighters and rating them higher or lower based on that). But in reality it took 10+ years of reading a ton of boxing books and watching everything there is to watch on past fighters to be able to make it in the first place.
     
  11. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I honestly wouldn't have him top 50....if i made a top 100 i'm guessing he'd be close to cracking top 75
     
  12. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I generally consider my top 50 I have typed up as my "ATG's", but it probably includes 60-70 fighters.
     
  13. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    Aaron Pryor?

    Good list though.
     
  14. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    Holmes, Foster and Wilde got in but not Harada, Conn and Gavilan? Arg. Grinds my gears, dude.
     
  15. keith

    keith ESB OG Full Member

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    That is a good list T-bag.

    Mine is

    1. Robinson
    2. Ali
    3. Joe Louis
    4. Roy Jones
    5. JC Chavez
    6. Henry Armstrong
    7. Benny Leonard
    8. Willie Pep
    9. Archie Moore
    10, Ray Leonard
    11. Barney Ross
    12. Roberto Duran
    13. Marvin Hagler
    14. Harry Greb
    15. Jack Johnson
    16. Sandy Saddler


    17. Jack Dempsey
    18. Jimmy Wilde
    19. Mickey walker
    20. Carlos Monzon
    21. Rocky Marciano
    22. Pernell Whitaker
    23. Alexis Arguello
    24. Joe Gans
    25. Bernard Hopkins
    26. Tony Canzoneri
    27. Gene Tunney
    28. Ricardo Lopez
    29. Ezzard CHarles
    30. Bob Foster
    31. Evander Holyfield
    32. Sam Langford

    33. Emile Griffith
    34. Eder Jofre
    35. Stanley Ketchel
    36. Floyd Mayweather
    37. Carlos Ortiz
    38. Mike Tyson
    39. Thomas Hearns
    40. Aaron Pryor
    41. Shane Mosely
    42. Pascual Perez
    43. Joe Frazier
    44. Manny Pacquiao
    45. Oscar De la hoya
    46. Jose Napoles
    47. Tommy Lougheran
    48. Wilfredo Gomez
    49. Micheal Spinks
    50. Lennox Lewis


    Keith