Atg Lists

1 Sam Langford
2 Harry Greb
3 Sugar Ray Robinson
4 Henry Armstrong
5 Ezzard Charles
6 Roberto Duran
7 Willie Pep
8 Benny Leonard
9 Mickey Walker
10 Archie Moore

Changes a little though, sometimes Fitzsimmons or Ali will make #10.

 

#1. Ray Robinson
#2. Sam Langford
#3. Harry Greb
#4. Henry Armstrong
#5. Ezzard Charles
#6. Roberto Duran
#7. Benny Leonard
#8. Mickey Walker
#9. Muhammad Ali
#10. Willie Pep

Just off the top of my head, it changes way too often for me to have a set top 10.

Ray Leonard, Gans, Walcott, Moore, Ross, and Whitaker are a little off from top 10 (I also don't rank fighters that had the basis of their careers before 1900, so no Fitz on my list).

 

Most talented boxers Ive ever seen are.....

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Willie Pep
4. Roberto Duran
5. Sugar Ray Leonard
6. Joe Louis
7. Julio cesar Chavez
8. Pernell Whitaker
9. Roy Jones Jr
10. Floyd Mayweather

 

Always fluctuating:

1. Ray Robinson
2. Harry Greb
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Sam Langford
5. Muhammad Ali
6. Ezzard Charles
7. Roberto Duran
8. Mickey Walker
9. Benny Leonard
10. Barney Ross
11. Barbados Joe Walcott
12. Bob Fitzsimmons
13. Willie Pep
14. Joe Gans
15. Tony Canzoneri
16. Ray Leonard
17. Pernell Whitaker
18. Charley Burley
19. Joe Louis
20. Carlos Monzon
21. Archie Moore
22. Jimmy Wilde
23. Gene Tunney
24. Emile Griffith
25. Kid Gavilan
26. Ike Williams
27. Luis Manuel Rodriguez
28. Carlos Ortiz
29. Alexis Arguello
30. Roy Jones Jr.
31. Sandy Saddler
32. Eder Jofre
33. Marvin Hagler
34. Thomas Hearns
35. Jose Napoles

 

1. Ray Robinson
2. Julio Caesar Chavez
3. Cassius Clay
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Joe LOuis
6. Marvin Hagler
7. Ray Leonard
8. Archie moore
9. George Foreman
10. Floyd Mayweather Jnr
11. Lennox Lewis
12. Bhop

difficult to put in order

 

Even though it's only one spot, why Ali over Charles?

 

:?

 

Consistency would be the main reason I'd usually place him there. In all honesty though I'm starting to rethink my Ali placing. Charles has a strong case to be ranked ahead of him.

 

Good lord.

 

Yeah p4p :good

 

I only had Ali 4 spots behind him, but personally I don't see the case for Ali.

Even on consistancy I think Charles edges him, once Charles reached his peak and came back from the service in '46, he only suffered one loss in about 40 fights over a 6 year span and that was the decision to Elmer Ray that many reports claim was a bad decision, he stopped Ray in the rematch and the quality of his opponents at the time was insane as you know.

I've recently began to feel that Charles should be securely placed in the top 5, I don't think he has quite the argument for the top spot that Robinson, Langford, Greb, or Armstrong have, but I think he's clearly above everyone else.

 

Nice to see Chavez so high as he is underrated on this forum but.....

You think Lewis is better than Pep or Duran ?

Hagler above Leonard p4p when Leonard was smaller & won in the H2H match-up ?

To each their own, just glad to see ****ing Sam Langford left off a list for once.

:thumbsup

 

Like it or not, Langford is a P4P Top 4 fighter.

 

Langford top??? greatest ever? please explain