ATG Middleweight Chin Tier list-The Top Forty

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  1. George Crowcroft

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    I probably wouldn't make that statement for anyone at 160, just based on the amount of hideously hard punchers who have graced the division, but if there's any pair closest, it'd be these two.
     
  2. AwardedSteak863

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    Agreed! I vote Titanium for both guys GGG especially due to his longevity at 160.
     
  3. McGrain

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    Alright, that's not a lot of input but it's pretty universal and I find myself in total agreement, so I'm going to bang those two boys in at titanium - the discussion isn't closed though, again, if anyone wants to disagree and bring some evidence and thinking to the discussion that remains very welcome for as long as the fighter's name is in the thread title.
     
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  4. McGrain

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    Now for a really fascinating entry: Bert Lytell.

    Lytell was never stopped by concussion, and in fact was stopped just once, on a cut. During a ramshackle career made up of more than a hundred fights he posted 71-23-7 and survived a harrowing list of punchers weighing 162lbs or below: Archie Moore, Billy Smith, Charley Burley and Jackie Darthard, all with an aggressive style that saw him match all styles to a breakneck schedule.

    No footage but what do we make of Lytell's chin? Anyone?

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  5. George Crowcroft

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    If there was a category above Titanium named Adamantium, that's where I'd put Bert Lytell.
     
  6. McGrain

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    :lol:
     
  7. McGrain

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    A fighter named Johnny Eagles, a non-puncher, did drop him for a no-count or a short count in their 1946 contest but that's it. Otherwise his chin record seems unblemished.
     
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  8. McGrain

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    I don't know why I called him "Berty" Lytell in the thread title, that was an accident, but I think I'll leave it.
     
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  9. George Crowcroft

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    I like it. It's cute.
     
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  10. Greg Price99

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    Without footage, we only have Lytell's record and contemporary reports to go off.

    Never stopped at MW (apart from on cuts), despite facing Archie Moore, Charley Burley, Billy Smith, Jose Basora and Aaron Wade....my impression is that his chin was bona-fide titanium.
     
  11. Drew101

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    Yeah, in accordance with titantium for all three.

    GGG and Canelo both served to mutually vindicate one another's titanium status, and Lytell navigated through a bear pit largely unscathed back in the 40's.
     
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  12. dinovelvet

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    Taking hits from medium punching Canelo and fighting in staftey no risk style against him which resulted in a draw and a loss on the cards doesn't prove GGG is the owner of a titanium beard.
     
  13. dinovelvet

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    Not really because one guy had huge punch power and the other not so much. You can't grade their chins as equal when the power that hit them was not equal
     
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  14. Drew101

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    Fair, but GGG also shrugged off shots from guys like Lemieux and Jacobs without so much as a second thought. Plus, Canelo's power would have to be considered at least above average. Tough to consider Golovkin to be any less than "iron" given how little he appeared to be affected by opponent's incoming during much of his career.
     
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  15. McGrain

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    EVERYONE is titanium apart from Benvenuti ALL OF THEM
     
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