ATG Middleweight Chin Tier list-The Top Forty

Toney was never stopped in a 30 year career and took punches from some seriously deadly heavyweights in Peters and Rahman. The guy got rocked plenty of times but I see no reason to go with anything less than Titanium for JT.

 

I'd give Toney titanium pretty comfortably. Sure, he isn't completely unblemished, but he took everything off everybody and only ever had to pick himself off the floor a few times. Not to mention the stuff he showed post 160.

Marshall is an interesting case, as it's clear his chin was probably a little better than it's reputation suggests. Admittedly, his middleweight career is kinda blurred with his LHW career in my head, so I don't really know what happened where, but even still, I'd struggle to be convinced of Iron, and laugh at it being Titanium.

 

Agreed.

I was separating Toney and Marshall based on their different experiences at MW. Naturally, their chin rating is further informed by their experiences upward of the same.

Toney is, therefore, 'Titanium', IMO.

But Marshall has a case for just making it to 'Iron', given he was never stopped by a chin-beating KO in a MW bout.

 

Actually, now I come to consider it, not really - Garcia was probably it, as far as I can tell.

The case for 'Iron' would be very weak and this rating for Marshall doesn't sit right with me, either.

I'd suggest that, at Middleweight, Marshall's chin was 'Solid' enough, though. He might have been too inexperienced to turn the fight around against Garcia (I) but he managed to make it to the end, despite 4 KDs.

 

Marshall was also down against Broullaird not too long after the Garcia fights. He did get up to win, though. They might have been fighting a bit over the weight, too. Marshall wasn't at MW for that long, all things considered. Agree with the solid classification.

 

Agreed. Can't wait for him to do something similar with heavyweight punchers.

 

Wasn't Garcia really a welterweight as well? Another mark against Lloyd rating 'iron', if so.

 

The plus is you'd get a 50 pager for sure!!! They'd come running from miles!!!!! Some names would take 10 pages of back and forth/bickering to slow up!

 

Toney - Titanium
Marshall - Solid

 

Iron, I'd say. The stoppage losses are pretty big marks against him, but losing at the end of the line doesn't really matter much IMO; same with as a teen. Graziano was a monster puncher, and while Zale was stopped twice, he clearly showed a good chin on film. Not to mention, he wasn't particularly hard to hit, too.