ATG: Who Ranks Higher? Holyfield or Lewis?

I think its fair to say Lewis beat Holyfield twice,just got robbed unfortunately.

Rightly or wrongly,some people place alot of emphasis on the fact that Lewis beat Holyfield.

 

In my opinion Lewis' resume is just as stronge at Heavyweight, besides...
Lewis defeated Holyfield twice at Heavyweight BEFORE Holyfield became shot, case closed.

 

ok we could get a little pedantic about when people become recognised chap (did holy ever become undisputed? serious question)

so take the word reign out of it. HW career wise i favour LL. beat some good fighters (Botha, Golota, ruddock, tua, grant, mercer, an admittedly faded tyson, klitshkoand holy himself)

To reiterate i think atg wise holy higher but at heavy its LL for me. Not trying to come off like a ***** if you think holy tell me why and will listen, i just feel lennox is the better heavyweight

 

These debates will never end, when your talking about 2 greats like Lewis and Holyfield there will always be powerful arguements made from both sides.

 

Ignore all the names after Dokes. I can't believe you've put Ruiz on there, who Holy was all square with, lost to, and got knocked down by. tua, Ruddock, etc are all better than those guys, and Lewis fought some of them too.

Bowe. Yep, he beat him. But lost twice, and probably got saved by Fan Man in the other.

Moorer. Well, 1-1 with him. Moorer made his name by beating Holyfield, and getting KO'd by old George. Moorer is no better than Rahman IMO.

Holmes and Foreman. Come on, are you serious? Big George won the title by Moorer being an asshat, and still being able to punch. Not long after he was having struggles with guys like Axel Schulz.

tyson. Tyson was ****. Had fought about 3 rounds after coming out of prison before facing Holy (who BTW his advisors picked because they thought he was an easier target than Lewis......). His whole post prison career was nothing more than smoke and mirrors, (including opponents dives) to make people think he was still the baddest man around. I include his Lewis fight in that too before you go on about it.

Mercers a good win, Douglas was a whale.


Look it's close, but Lewis was the better heavy. When you consider Holy to be a cruiser, and his cruiser career, his overall rating is better than Lewis's without doubt.

But as a Heavy, Holy is the little engine that could, that's why people love him, and why they rank him so high.

 

What do you think you are doing. coming in here with your reasonable-ness and lack of bias.

you are not welcome on esb!

 

yeah....I have Trevor Berbick ranked ABOVE Muhammad Ali.....
atsch

 

11 world title BELTS and the real BELTs
not the NABO, WBO, IBO ****

Dwight Muhammad Qawi WINS WBA Cruiserweight title
Ossie Ocasio WINS WBA Cruiserweight title
Carlos De Leon WINS WBC Cruiserweight title
Buster Douglas WINS IBF, WBA WBC heavyweight titles
Riddick Bowe WINS WINS IBF, WBA heavyweight titles
Michael Moorer WINS IBF, WBA heavyweight titles
John Ruiz WINS WBA heavyweight title


25 world title fights total ( only 1 WBO)

KO losses in world title fights? ZERO

out weighed in every fight? PROBABLY

THREAD CLOSED!!!




nuff said

 

IMO, Holyfield easy.

 

You just dont get it do you. I wont even bother explaining to you.atsch

 

They wont get it. Its too hard for them to understand what I meant by what I said.

 

He was very close to being shot and he still couldnt handle Holy the way he should have. Tell me, why is it that a prime Lennox got ko'd twice by two men who wont even crack the top 50 all time HW? Yet an Old Holy gave Rahman an extra head in there fight. This after Holy was way past it.

 

yeah i know...its like pissing into the wind :good

 

Evander Holyfield