ATG: Who Ranks Higher? Julio Cesar Chavez Sr or James Toney?

toney isn't atg, easy.

 

Chavez, Toney is an underachiever

 

This is coming from an extreme Toney fan, Chavez is far higher from an ATG standpoint. it's not even close. Toney's career had the potential to be greater had he been on an appropriate trajectory but from 94 through 2003 his career was basically "Bolivian" :yep

He then won the CW title then immediately went to HW as a fat guy overachiever but nothing was remarkable about his career at HW so it has to be discounted.

 

Toney. better resume. fought from middleweight to heavyweight.

 

Chavez. toney ate himself out of the p4p rankings.

 

lol ain't it remarkable for a 5.10 former middleweight to beat Holyfield,drew with Rahmnan , beat Oquendo, arguably beat Peter, beat Guinn. You tell me who has done that :?

 

Chavez by a million miles.

 

James Toney, at least he won his big fights fairly and didn't require controversies/robberies.

 

which big fights. he was on roids for most of his hw career lol
beat mccallum, nunn, jirov and a completely shot holyfield as a mw/smw he was a great fighter. as a lhw, cruiser, hw he wasn't.

 

Old Holyfield no, he should've lost to Rahman and Oquendo, and was dominated by Peter in the second fight, The Guinn win was good, but we all know what type of fighter Guinn is. I don't much consider his run at heavyweight or LHW, I love Toney but his best work was pre-94. Except for the minor run at CW where he usurped Jirov's belt.

 

I like you Scar, but that's the biggest bull I've seen you write on this site. :nono

 

I reckon Chavez must have ****d his mom, he never gives him credit for anything, it's disgusting.

 

Chavez - top 30 ATG
Toney - top 80 ATG

 

OK, so now we know Scar is really Bobby Czyz. And all this time I thought he was Teddy Atlas.