ATG: Who Ranks Higher, Pacquiao or Arguello?

Sad but true, a lot of these pac****s wont know what to do when Pac loses because their knowledge starts & ends with Manny, not all of them but more than enough.

 

It is why I'm careful to mince my words. There is a huge difference between a Pacquiao fan and a *******. It has gotten so overwhelming.

 

On the Arguello-Pac H2H thing, I pick AA because I just dont see Pac being able to get close enough to AA without taking the harder punches, the height & reach of Alexis is scary, it would look abnormal vs Manny, of course Pac would make a fight of it but he likes to get in & do damage & vs AA that would be suicide with AAs precision & power.
I see a KO in store for Manny, no bias, honest pac fans

 

Arguello may be my favorite fighter of all time and Pac. is currently my favorite. Arguello gets the nod @ this time as I think his overall competition was better, especially when Pacs. last 3 "easy" fights are taken into consideration. However, those easy fights may have more to do with how great Pac. is becoming. I expect him to beat Cotto and then I'd place him above Arguello.

 

while jmm resembles what arguello can do, jmm failed to beat pac. arguello being the bigger fighter would not necessarily mean he would stop pac or even jmm at 130 if they ever meet. to say that arguello would surely stop pac at 130 is undermining pac's heart.

 

I still probably wouldn't rate Manny above Alexis even in the event he did get the victory over a good fighter in Miguel Cotto.

Alexis stands out when you look at his body of work in all three weight divisions he dominated. He ranks in the top 10 of all time in all of them, usually. That's because he didn't just go in there and fight one fight for the title and then vacate. He established "dominance".

If Pacquiao could beat Mayweather though, that would be hard to argue with.

 

*******s are funny the guy doesn't rank higher than Arguello who is a top 25 ATG.:-(

 

Not at all.

Envisioning a stoppage victory for Arguello is testament to how good of a fighter he was, and how powerful he was as Super Featherweight.

Alexis is both bigger and better than Juan Manuel Marquez. He has two fisted power, and is much better body puncher than Dinamita is. His offensive arsenal, as a whole, ranks as one of the greatest of all time or at least should do. He utlised everything. His counter hook is better than Donaire's, who I think has the best counter hook in the game today. Look what it did to Escalera in their second meeting. Devastating. Harder right hand, a longer right hand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NirvCTZVLo
7.53

I see similiarities between Alexis and the fighter who arguably defeated Manny last time out. But considering I think Arguello is better than Marquez, I'm inclined to believe that he hurts Pacquiao more frequently, and lands more frequently with longer right hand, and his body punching would be a huge factor. I think Manny was hurt in the 8th by a body shot when he fought Marquez for the second time. That is not what he needs when in the ring with an Arguello. Look at the Mancini fight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsJzjR5iMLA
1.16

 

arguello is not faster than jmm but he is the better fighter at 130. they are both accurate and smart fighters. pac is not mancini. he would not go straight to arguello. by the time pac fought jmm again, he is now a calculating fighter. and even if it goes to war, we have not yet seen the limit of pac's heart.

 

Hmmm, didn't expect to be called a **** numerous times by you. Disappointing.

SK, I know you will protest till you are blue in the face, but I genuinely suspect you do indeed have some sort of issue with Pacquiao, very possibly dating back to when he absolutely raped your boy MAB.

After watching Cotto fight Margarito and Clottey, it's pretty much the only explanation for someone of your intelligence saying Cotto is a better boxer than Manny. Sorry, but that opinion cannot be justified and cannot be grounded in rationality and objectivity. Cotto is a strong fighter and a good fighter, but his flaws and limitations are enormous. Pacquiao never has since he became a world champ and never will till he retires be brutalized by a B-class fighter like Margarito or go life and death with a C-class fighter like Clottey.

Floyd is not the same fighter at 147 that he was at 130. He is nowhere near that good. Pacquiao is not the same fighter that he was 2003-2005. He is much better. You and others perpetually write off Pac's chances.

I look forward with great relish to your next crow-muching fest after the Cotto fight. :good

 

But we both agree that Pacquiao loses. :good Okay.

 

I stopped reading after the second line.

If you consider me a liar then I would rather not discuss Boxing or anything else with you.

I look forward to the fight.

P.S Patronizing ****. :good

 

You know I'm a monster Pac man like yourself, but personally I wouldn't back Manny to beat Arguello. I'm not saying Arguello would win 100%, I have seen many of his fights and he could definitely be troubled by guys with wicked speed like Pac has, but if I had to go with one of them, I think Alexis had the better all-round game and would get the win more often than not. He was one of the very best punchers in history in terms of power and technique.

However, your viewpoint is definitely valid, this is not a Alexis Arguello v Arturo Gatti style mismatch, Pac definitely has a live chance and is on Alexis's level. After the fights with Cotto and Mayweather, we may then say Pac was the greater fighter both h2h and career-wise.

But as of right now, I say Arguello both in h2h terms and p4p.

 

Not an outright liar, just someone that harbours a grudge and lets it affect his judgement in a largely subconscious way.

But hey, if you don't want to discuss anything with me then **** you and I will indeed look forward to reading your next batch of crow-slurping posts after the fight! :good:good:good

 

In any event, your wrong. :verysad

What has transpired in this thread has been me picking two very able fighters (Cotto and Mayweather) to beat a mortal (Pacquiao), and backed my claims up with sufficient amount of explanation. If that means I harbor a grudge then maybe you need to reevaluate a few things.

As a side note, stop with patronizing, DINAMITA. You're coming across as a little pretentious on occasion. It's not good for your image.