ATG: Who Ranks Higher, Pacquiao or Arguello?

If we base it on accomplishments, then it would be pac.

If we base it on fight prowess, then it would be alexis (+).

If we base it on Pac (2008-09) vs Alexis (80s), it would be 50/50 based on their respective techniques. It could go either way, (could get both their bigotes kissing the canvas :hey)

From my point of view, Pac would have the edge on who's ranked higher, given his remarkable feats from 106 to 107 (112-140 weight titles).. I think no one from two decades beat pac's achievements like that.. And he is just on the peak of his prime and can even go a long way (If he chooses to leave politics and focuses more on boxing)..

 

You don't factor in Alexis' dominance at 126, 130, and 135? Defended his titles numerous times during all of his stints at those weights, whereas the same cannot be said for Manny Pacquiao, who didn't even fight a great fighter at 135lb?

I find these days particularly, although this doesn't necessarily apply to Pacquiao, that accomplishments on paper can be misleading. For instance, both Linares and Valero, two young untested fighters, can lay claim to being 2 weight world champions. This was a rare thing in Alexis day, who took on the best fighter in each division, and then established dominance by defending the title. I put a lot of stock in that.

I also disagree that it would be a 50/50 fight if the two were to fight during their respective peaks. Alexis was darn big for a 130lb, which allowed him to maintain his destructive power that was previously displayed as Featherweight. He has the same boxer-puncher style that Juan Manuel Marquez displayed in his two fights with Manny, who was able to draw mistakes from hos opponent and counter effectively with his right hand. Alexis has more power, longer right hand, and better more consistent body work. That is where I see the edge. Marquez already shown what a precise sharpshooter can do to even the more measured version of Pac.

 

lol at the arguments.

 

Turned out to be quite a fun little thread in the end I must say.

 

I am a little pretentious, and when have I ever cared about my image??

You think Cotto is a better boxer than Pacquiao. Your judgement is horribly flawed, and that begs questions.

Cotto may beat Pacquiao due to size, he is a strong quality ww and may be a bridge too far, but to say he is a better boxer?

I thought solvent abuse had been eradicated in Britain.

 

i am just this minute sniffing a pritt-stick...

 

Pass it round... :dead

 

i do not condone the use of illegal substances!

is glue illegal?

 

Yep that's why alexis is that great, but manny jumped weight classes in such a short time in dominating fashion that others, even arguello hardly can do.

Alexis was big for a LW, and has the power of a WW. But we can't count out Manny's enornmous speed. Alexis has the speed too, but pacman has this great body movement and in&out offense/defense moves. Alexis power could wobble pac, but pac could tag him too from his 'where did that came from?' punches.

 

Nah. That's the beauty of it. ****ing delicious.

 

you heard out of carles?

 

So because I think Cotto has displayed better ring craft than Manny Pacquiao in both of their respective careers, I hate Manny Pacquiao?

Nice detective work, Perry Mason.

 

Yep. He PM'd me to ask me to stop slaughtering a certain chump a couple of weeks ago. I said no, and told Carles to check the guy's previous threads so he could see I was attacking him with legitimacy. Carles checked, agreed, and gave me the green light! :good

 

You're a disgusting foul bully, DINAMITA.

I often get scared of posting knowing fully well I'm going to have explain each and every word afterward.

 

You said: Cotto is a better boxer.

You may try to tweak that statement now, but I'll go and find the post if you are in a denying kind of mood.

It's like me saying Diego Corrales or Johnny Tapia or Israel Vasquez were greater fighters than Barrera.

Utterly unjustifiable. Put the Tipp-Ex down.