ATG: Who Ranks Higher? Roy Jones Jr. or Bernard Hopkins?

His middleweight reign, his success into his 40s, Coming in as the underdog many times, coming out victorious. Jones has great accomplishments too, especially winning the WBA heavyweight title. Its close but I give Hopkins the slight edge.

 

Are you going to argue that Jones Jnr was anymore than a late career gimme?

Please...

He was dropped by them both. Very lucky he fought them on the seniors tour.

 

Lets remember we are talking all time not your current time

 

Oh look up there! A straw you haven't clutched yet :yep

Calzaghe W > Hopkins L
Calzaghe W > RJJ L

 

I think he was only an under dog for Tarver and Trinidad ..Outside of his longevity I don't feel his accomplishments surpass Roys ..But can't argue his greatness .

 

Also pavlik and pascal twice, what more does he have to do though? jones keeps humiliating himself while hopkins adds to his legacy, I had jones slightly up before last night but after him getting ktfo again and hopkins adding much to his legacy, its only fair that he finally gets the edge, h2h prime jones owns him though, that wont change.

 

even though I think Roy is the greater fighter, he is being knocked out so much recently, I am not sure all these knockouts will not make us only remember him as a weak chinned fighter. His prime was good, but he did handpick then, so you don't have great fights to really remember him by. So if he keeps fighting and being stopped, it might affect his overall greatness.

 

I had Jones ahead, but given last nights B-Hop performance, his longevity, and Roys lack thereof, I put Hops ahead slightly. Lets face it Hops only goes higher, Roy will not.

 

I've had Hopkins ahead of Jones for a while now.

 

Hopkins is cleary a few notches higher than RJJ!

 

Again if we are talking longevity Hopkins but as far as accomplishemhts Jones by a country mile ..Jones was dominating the lt heavies long before Hopkins decided to go back to where he started .Just because Jones is fighting long past his best it still doesn't take away from his accomplishemnts ..And just let me get this streight were u saying that Hopkins was an under dog against Pavlik ? I told everyone it would look like the Trinidad fight yet people wnated to beleive in the hype of the Ghost ..I personally don't think that win did anything for his legacy ..

And Pascal is the weakest of any current champ everyone knew that going into the fight but now he's a gate keeper to legacy come on now ..

 

Jones didn't lol, Jones is making him look like a chump, he got dropped by old washed up shattered jaw Roy. I had Hops ahead on the cards in the Calslappy fight. And for the record, beating someone doesn't necessarily make you greater. Clinton Mitchell also beat Hopkins, does that make him greater?

 

:| WAAAH RJJ dropped Calzaghe!!! WAAAAHHH :|

So what? So did Hopkins...guess what? Calzaghe beat both of them :happy

No one beat Calzaghe - DOES.NOT.COMPUTE!!!!!!

Don't be talking RJJ down, since your hero Hopkins chose to fight him instead of Danny Green after Green ruined RJJ :hey

 

if only RJJ had retired after the first Tarver fight....

 

Roy, because Roy became heavyweight champ.

But Bernard might surpass him.