ATG: Who Ranks Higher? Roy Jones Jr or Evander Holyfield?

Is fighting a far past best Virgil Hill, 5ft6 Montell Griffin and a far past best Reggie Johnson from the outside with feints as impressive as fighting World #1 GEORGE FOREMAN, World champ MIKE TYSON and 6ft5 250lb boxing masters TOE-TO-TOE having started at light-heavy? If you answer yes, you scare the living daylights out of me with your insanity and I'm blocking you.

 

The former would be laughed at by Dempsey and Langford and Armstrong

 

You are rating on a POUND FOR POUND basis you nut.

Roy started out as a MW.

He was an Olympic JMW.

Destroying Hill and Griffin at LHW, which was his 3rd weight class, was certainly better than a prime version of Evander beating an old version of George Foreman.

If you can’t comprehend that, then PLEASE block me.

If you want to be ignorant by labelling Griffin as just a 5’7” fighter, then I’ll be as ignorant and say that Qawi was also only a 5’7” fighter.

How do you like that?

Going toe to toe with someone is highly exciting and great on the eye. But every fighter has a different style.

Is a HW going toe to toe with another HW, better than a fighter at a lower weight outsmarting another fighter at a lower weight?

You can’t rank one over the other based on personal preference.

You cannot keep dismissing Hill as being faded, when you know that Mike Tyson was also faded, where he’d spent 3 years in prison, and had already been beaten by Douglas over 6 years earlier.

Again, you simply don’t know how to debate.

Yes, Evander beat great HW’s. Of course. But he was a great HW himself.

On a P4P basis, Roy’s win over James Toney is comparable to Evander’s wins over guys like Mike Tyson and Riddick Bowe.

That’s what P4P means.

 

I’m sure Dempsey wouldn’t have found it funny had he have had a 1967 version of Ali in front of him, up on his toes, circling, feinting and skipping in and out range etc.

 

You expect people to read all this? Madness.

 

What a pathetic response.

You should be embarrassed of yourself.

Shall I go and find all of your posts which are of a similar length or LONGER, which you expect others to read?

How about your weekly Eubank interviews?

Either debate the points, or don’t bother debating me ever again.

 

Let’s not kid ourselves here.

You’re only kicking up a fuss because you can’t refute what I’ve said.

It’s not even a long post.

 

I'm not being paid to spend hours straightening out an insane robot.

 

Do you seriously think that the people reading this won’t be able to work out what’s happened?

 

Whatever it says, it's probably the same old deluded gibberish. Get a life and accept the truth

 

Stop acting like a small child and come back and debate the points.

 

Ha!

This is great.

As always, it made me laugh. But that nut will literally take it seriously.

 

True, everyone fights inferior opponents. Not everyone gets elevated to P4P #1 for it though, as is the case for Roy. His most hardcore supporters often cite Toney and Hopkins to make their case. Some throw in Griffin/McCallum as well, then claim his outclassing of Hall, Harmon, and the like solidifies his status as ATG/P4P over guys like Evander.

Roy was supposed to waltz through those guys, just as Floyd waltzed through guys like Ndou.

You make a better case than most, but those guys while solid, don’t compare to a Mike or Lennox. Even diminished versions of the former or Foreman are better than the rest of the guys you listed. P4P who’s picking any of those guys over post-prison Mike even?

It’s not a better resume than Evander, it’s solid.