ATG: Who Ranks Higher? Tommy Hearns or Floyd Mayweather Jr.

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ATG: Who Ranks Higher?

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  1. Tommy "Hitman" Hearns

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  2. Floyd "Money" Mayweather Jr

    34 vote(s)
    41.5%
  1. Loudon

    Loudon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    An ageing midget?

    Aren’t we blessed to have you here.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Even this might not be true. But I understand.

    I don't, but it doesn't make me crazy like it seems to you. The only bad clause is the one that prevents a fighter from occurring.

    Two teams earning around 10k an hour between them got in a room or a virtual room and thrashed out a contact that was agreeable to both men. Then they had a fight.

    /end.
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I never said one warrants more criticism than the other.

    What I said was a fan of a boxer will always find a way of defending him and a detractor will always find a way of criticising him.

    You can blame Floyd for whatever you want and defend Roy however you want, but ultimately one of those ended up fighting his biggest divisional rival and one didn't.

    It's like I'm this thread. People say Hearns is greater because Floyd ducked x, y and z. Yet Hearns didn't face McCallum, rumours circulated he'd seen him in Kronk and was kept away from him.

    Every fighter has missed someone off their ledger, fans will always defend that someone and detractors will always criticise that someone.

    Ultimately we can only judge a man on what he did.

    Imo what Floyd did was greater than what Hearns did, but there isn't a lot in it.
     
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  4. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    your whole case is weak.also the fact that you rank the Castillo win above the Duran win makes one question your objectivity
     
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  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Hearns and McCallum have footage on YouTube of them sparring each other.
     
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  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    So you can have your 18-2 h2h comparison in Floyd's favor then.
     
  7. Abysswalker

    Abysswalker New Member Full Member

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    I seriously don't know what some of those people are smoking. Comparing Castillo to Duran... Just incredible..

    What's next? That Floyd could move up to MW and beat Hagler? Or that he would beat Leonard?

    Hearns outboxed Leonard in both of their matches, the guy stood up to Hagler for a few rounds and traded with him. Fought Duran, Benitiez and there are people here who are comparing him to Floyd who had a manufactured 50-0 record. Who needed to fight in Vegas, pick the referee himself, pick the judges and even paid his opponent money to not fight with the gloves they preferred to manufacture that record. Don't get me wrong, Floyd is very skilled, a great boxer with a very high ring iq (both inside and outside the ring, wink wink) but those comparisons started to be more and more ridiculous.

    Comparing someone who lost to Castillo and Maidana (Floyd lost first matches against both) to someone who outboxed Leonard is the most ******ed thing i ever read on this forum.

    Edit: that mentally challenged Olu Routimi guy was even more sane than the guy above.
     
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  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Sorry about your feelings, bro.
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It doesn’t make me crazy. But I’m going to make reference to it on a thread where it’s been discussed.
     
  10. Loudon

    Loudon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fine.

    There’s no point in discussing it any further.

    Fans will always choose a side.

    An objective and intelligent fan will be able to work it out for themselves.
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You’ll have to get used to it.

    Ha!
     
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  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Exactly.

    That's why I don't worry about Floyd fighting older versions of Pacquiao, Hoya, Mosley or Cotto, or Hearns missing McCallum and fighting old Duran and old Benitez.

    All I do is look at what they did and determine who's greater in my opinion.
     
  13. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Benitez or Duran were not old.
     
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  14. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Benitez was not old. He beat Duran rather easily and 154 was his best weight. I think moving up to middle weight was not the right move for him, but to say he was old. He was the same age as Hearns an 154 was almost his best weight. And Duran being old. I have gone over that for years. He was the WBA champion and the age was not a factor. If there was a problem, it was not age. I think Benitez and Duran are names which eclipse the names Mayweather fought. These were champions. Manny was much older. Floyd waited 5 years to fight him. Oscar and Mosley were way out of his generation. Cotto was no Duran or Benitez.
     
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  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Duran was third in his division when Hearns fought him. Manny was second on the planet when Floyd fought him. Hearns was young. Floyd was 38.

    Benitez was about half a year away from getting his ass beat by Hamsho and spiraling into dementia when Hearns beats him.

    Fax, homie.
     


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