ATG: Who Ranks Higher? Tommy Hearns or Floyd Mayweather Jr.

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ATG: Who Ranks Higher?

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  1. Tommy "Hitman" Hearns

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  2. Floyd "Money" Mayweather Jr

    34 vote(s)
    41.5%
  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    If Floyd beat Manny 9-3 in a dull fight in 2010, I doubt you would be pleased or hold it in extremely high regard.
     
  2. surfinghb1

    surfinghb1 Member Full Member

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    Absolutely I would !!! be we all know already that Manny wasn't a dull fighter in 2010 ... Unless your point is , he was the same fighter in 2015 as he was in 2010
     
  3. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think you mean Floyd easily handled a physically overmatched, fat, flat-footed featherweight, who he couldn't be bothered to make the weight for.

    Or is that what you mean by him handling Marquez at his own game? That is, not bothering to work the pounds off?

    If you based your forecast on the form from that bout, I never want a betting tip from you.
     
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  4. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. He thinks their common opponent in Marquez is central to the form guide.
     
  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Marquez sparked Manny at an older age while at welterweight. If he looked like he didn't belonging the ring with Floyd, it would be pretty obviously a bad matchup for Manny, and it was.
     
  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Manny never was a dull fighter. Damn near every fight he's had in the last decade had plenty of action, except when he fought Floyd.
     
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  7. surfinghb1

    surfinghb1 Member Full Member

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    The fight was for 2010 , everyone knows it
     
  8. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're trying to make associations between versions of fighters, fights and their results, which were years apart, look like they were collective predictors of what would have happened in 2010.

    It's a cobbled-together case, if I ever read one.
     
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  9. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    1. You’re talking about a fight between Mayweather and Manny in 2010.
    2. Mayweather outclassed Marquez in 2009
    3. Marquez took Manny to the wire in 2008 and 2011. Sparked him in 2012 while in his late 30s.

    This is basic logic.
     
  10. 6.5winmag

    6.5winmag New Member Full Member

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    THE MOTOR CITY COBRA
     
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  11. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. It's just basic - fertilizer.
     
  12. JLP1978

    JLP1978 New Member Full Member

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    2nd Round KO over Duran at 154 trumps everything that Floyd has accomplished.

    Floyd would have lost to Leonard and it wouldn’t have been close.
     
  13. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    sounds reasonable
     
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  14. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Duran was 32. What is the argument? Duran was always great on the inside. Tommy was great on the outside and picking his shots with the jab. Duran was third in his division? Hearns was number one. In a pretty stacked. Take a look at junior middleweight in 1984. Benitez was also a year from Maurice Hope and outboxing Duran over 15 rounds. Benitez was great at 154 and probably the best he ever fought there. I remember Manny being more like 5 ranked in the world then in a very thin era. Floyd waited for Marquez to knock him out. And what a shock he fights him.
     
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  15. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How old was Benitez when Hearns fought him? 24? How old was Mosley, Oscar and Cotto and Pacman when Floyd fought them? I don't see an argument. Mosley beat Margarito.. making him the best? According to most people no one beat a prime Duran. For one reason or another, but the fact is Tommy Hearns knocked out Duran which was a great accomplishment. No one stopped Duran like than when Duran was even in his 40s. And Tommy did it when Duran was relatively young. Everyone Floyd fought was older and not prime and handpicked. And you guys know it.
     


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