ATG who ranks higher? Winky Wright or Joe Calzaghe

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So mosley is old but hopkins is highly capable? Wasnt mosley still highly capable? He just came off his 2nd win over oscar. :huh
Tito...he was past it. He did just come off a good win over mayorga but he was past his best. You said eubanks was past it but not shot. Tito wasnt shot. He was past it. Why didnt you mention that?:huh
And you give a giant excuse for lacy but call quartey badley faded. Wasnt lacy just bad?:huh
I personally think joe is a better atg too but you dont have to be so biased. Makes his fans look bad.

 

I've been schooling you consistently for days now, and you know it, and so does every non-troll who can read.

You're wrong about Vargas and Reid, same as you're so so very wrong on Brewer and Pascal, same as you're wrong about more or less everything boxing-related, because every opinion you have is based on promoting one (retired) fighter and has no connection to merit, knowledge and understanding, nor even reality. :good

 

Nah, I think Winky drags him into a war and one of them gets stopped in one of the many explosive exchanges.

 

Winky by derrick jefferson style left hook, obv. :hey:deal

 

:rofl

 

What's with all of this "by my cards" crap? Now people are making up their own records for fighters? I've been seeing this a lot recently, people basically keeping their own records for fighters based on how THEY scored it. I saw some moron on another thread claim that Hopkins' record was 57-2-1 and didn't even say it like, "this is what his record should be". He said it like, "Hopkins (57-2-1) is once again the WBC LHW champion".

It's stupid. The record is THE record, whether you agree with it or not.

 

Never said Mosley was old I said he was slower and less effective@ 154lbs and his win over Oscar is highly tainted for two reason 1. his admission in the BALCO scandal and 2. for the fact most people think Oscar did enough to win that fight.

This is the 2nd time you've accused me of saying something I didn't, go back to my original post and actually read it this time, nowhere did I say Trinidad was shot all I did was dispute Popkins opinion that it was a good version of Tito that Winky beat and put forth my opinion that Tito was past it nowhere did I imply he was shot and there would be no reason for me to do so considering he put forth a strong performance against Mayorga just before.

I aknowledged Lacy was a hypjob but also mentioned how everyone thought he was a beast just before the fight and that there were few people giving Calzaghe a chance but Calzaghe put on a clinic and ruined Lacy.

The version of Quartey Winky beat was badly faded I don't want to call him shot but he wasn't far from it, his best days were long behind him and for you to try and imply that Lacy was badly faded is quite strange and to be honest I don't know what to make of it.

I've got no reason to be biased, I used to bash Calzaghe all the time but in time and i've come to appreciate his skills and i've got no problem with Winky either. (although I wouldn't class myself as a fan of either man)

Your whole reply was based off assumptions and skimming through my original post, next time i'd hope you read everything before commenting and making accusations.

 

It would the antithesis of logic to say a fight was a loss if you don't actually believe it was a loss. That makes no sense, it is nonsensical. How can I force my brain to recognize and give credit for a win, if I scored the fight and therefore do not believe it was a win for that fighter? That would have no integrity whatsoever. Real fans watch fights, real fans score fights. :good

 

You said tito was past it. but you said eubanks was past it but not shot....why didnt you write that for tito as well?

 

It's explained in my reply, with Eubank you have a fighter coming in at short notice dropping some weight and some people consider that version of Eubank to be shot, I stated 'past it but not shot' to show that I think while it may not have been the best version of Eubank he was not shot.

With Trinidad there was no need to say he wasn't shot because i've not encountered anyone who thought Trinidad was shot against Winky and his performance against Mayorga showed he was not shot.

 

Winky absolutely dominated Trinidad and beat a prime (possibly roided) Mosley twice. Those two wins are better than anything on Slappy's resume, IMO.

However, after that, he lost to about the same Hopkins that Slappy edged and finished with an uninspired loss to Paul Williams.

Wright also lost to Fernando Vargas, a fighter on about the same skill level as Lacy and Reid -- fights Slappy won.

Slappy beat an undefeated Kessler and dominated Lacy. Many of the names on his resume are less than stellar, but they were rated higher by the alphabet organizations than many of the names on Winky's.

In this case, give Zags his due. He is above Winky in this case.

 

You are so ignorant. Both Winky and Calzaghe are all-time greats. So, Winky got lucky when he beat Mosley twice, the first time to become the Jr. Middleweight Champion of the World. He really should've won against Jermain Taylor to become the Middleweight Champion of the World. I thought his fight with Hopkins was pretty close and that says something. He was fighting for the World Light Heavyweight title then.

Joe Calzaghe, his record speaks for itself. The man is a legend. He was the most accomplished super middleweight of all time. He was the super middleweight world champion and the light heavyweight world champion at rthe same time. You should really study boxing instead of spouting off ignorant biases.

 

Oh yeah, the answer is Joe Calzaghe.

 

Looks like he's trolling to me dude. He's saying this whole thread is just going to be picking apart both of them, because that's how these threads go.

People don't discuss why one was better than the other, people discuss why one sucked more than the other.