This guy never fought Roy Jones, or James Toney and was such a nonentity that Hopkins went over his division to fight at LH vs Tarver. To date he has beaten Jeff Lacy! yes, the one from the Manfredo fight!!!!!! and Kessler who while good, has his best win aginst Marcus Beyer!!! Joe is a good fighter thats all. His greatest skill has been in matchmaking and laying low, then coming out when the dust is clear. Clearly the thinnest resume of a proposed ATG ever, and if not who then? give me some names?
This has been done before, the Calzaghe nut huggers are going to the same thing as they usually do, he beat Eubanks and then beat guys like Lacy and Kessler who are both pretty unproven, we have already come to find that out after watching Lacey win barely against guys he was supposed to destroy. Calzaghe is good fighter, but he has never beat a great, so he should never be considered a great IMO. Calzaghe missed the boat, as one poster put it, he never faced the great fighters of his generation like Hopkins or Jones.
Well that's one way to put it. Another way would be that Hopkins deliberately leapfrogged SMW division because he knew he would have been in for the toughest night of his career. Take your pick.
marcel cerdan and carlos zarate, both have very weak resumes and get ranked in the ring magazine's top 80 of all times. Well then again, i'm sure they will be replaced by mayweather, pacquiao, morales, etc. Cerdan, graziano and zale were not legit middleweight champs IMO. The entire murderers row were denied shots at the belt. Burley, cocoa kid and holman williams would have ruled the division in the 40s if it wasnt for bull**** politics.
Oh yea sure, Calzaghe was gonna be tougher then moving up 2 weight classes to take on the best light heavy weight and the guy who knocked out roy jones jr and beat him twice? :huh
I don't believe Calzaghe is an ATG at all. He's a good fighter with a thin resume. He's happened to peak when most of the great fighters that were in his division are either washed up or not even in that division anymore. He's never beaten a great fighter so I don't know why he's gettin so much hype.
Calzaghe is only getting hype here in ESB...from certain posters...they know who they are.. calm down folks...in the real world...Not many have heard of the guy outsode of the UK
Abso-****in-lutely. You're the only guy on here that will say Tarver is better than Calzaghe. Tarver beating a shot Jones is no big deal to me. A prime Jones destroys him. Calzaghe is not an ATG boxer on anything but head to head ability, but based on that, he ranks pretty damn high.
In terms of overall talent and overall ability, Joe Calzaghe is one of the best fighters of all time. In terms of resume and accomplishments, he's the best super middleweight ever, and an all time great (but not yet at the level of the all time legends)