Well in terms of resume, they are right, he is nowhere near ATG status, but his 22 defenses are pretty amazing on the accomplishments side.
Believe what you want, I happen to believe along with many others that Bernard has never wanted any piece of Joe.
And personally I don't blame BHop at all, in the slightest. Joe is a nightmare for any 168 - 175. Bernard steered well clear... and was wise to.
He is really top notch. Another big win and he can retire with his legacy secure. Not necessarily an ATG, but certainly one of the greats of his 10-12 year prime era. - Jason
just how good Kessler is remins to be seen Ottke made 21 defenses or something like that Im sure if you look hard enough you will find someone comparable to Kessler how about Brewer?
Ottke made 21 defenses of his title so thats how little respect I have for what Joe C has done. No big deal
your embarrising yourself. if you do not know who fighters were and what they were cabable of ,how do you compare who they are or judge them head to head on there status or abilties.?
tell me in your own words how you rated glen johnson`s performance against ottke when they fought. IMO you have not seen a single ottke fight and are talking out your arse giving the usual spiel.
So what if he never fought RJJ or Toney? It can just as easily be said RJJ and Toney never fought Calzaghe :deal Hopkins wanted no part of Calzaghe, which is why he skipped SMW to fight milk dud. Tarver is only known because he KOd a severely past-his-best RJJ. Hopkins has been forced into a corner and has to accept a fight with Calzaghe or look like a chicken :deal Look at what Lacy was doing before Calzaghe demolished him :deal The Lacy you saw in the Manfredo fight is a man devoid of confidence, because Calzaghe destroyed him both metally and physically. Kessler is the #2 SMW in the world today :deal You don't know what you're talking about :deal
here we have a case yet again of many americans adopting the attitude that anyone outside america`s backyard who is not shown on american tv is a phoney. all that proves to me is those that think in such a way know **** all whatsoever about boxing . if you cannot judge what calzaghe brings to the table in terms of abilty because he is a european fighting out of europe because you have a closed mind or even worse do not have a clue about what you see with your own eyes should stick to replays of gatti v ward only . brooklyn1550 summed it up best.