Atg With Thinnest Resume Ever? Joe C

did you forget that tito ain't a MW and his best win there was joppy? you ****ing clown!

did you forget that krispy kreme's wright looked **** at 170? you ****ing clown!

merry christmas :smooch

 

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All I know is that I had to Adblock your avatar because it's driving me up the wall.

 

how many times have numbskulls like you have to be told that jones and toney had already moved up to light heavy and heavy when calzaghe started his reign.he was never on their radar anyway.you name one atg super middle in calzaghe's time that he could have fought.hopkins priced himself out of a fight with calzaghe a few years ago and is still ducking and diving.

 

You're a troll... I have never seen you making one decent argument. You should be banned for wasting bandwith with your silly comments.

Take some time of from this site and watch some of the "overprotected Eurofighters" and come back with an opinion based on their skill and not on the degree of exposure they get in the media.

Ps. Don't waste your time responding you're on my ignore list from now on.

 

Well put

 

very true
calzaghe has not fought a fighter not good enough to be in the contender series.
he has not been beat by a harding or a johnson type fighter.

calzaghe has not said he will not fight green or dawson or erdei or woods, or any fighter with a pulse.

calzaghe is well known for having as much movement as a lamppost and keeping his chin up in the air and firing of as many as 20 punches a round.

i also agree its debatable if calzaghe at 35 or 36 could get better than a split descion v as talented a fighter as murqi, whos best result was losing to a fighter who was not good enough to get on the contender.

trinidad showed v wright he is a formidable super middleweight hitting wrights gloves with his face to wear wright out was a statergy that just failed to work.

johnson now this is where you having a laugh.

johnsons record at 168 is
lost title fight to hopkins at 160 themn moved up

lost to sosa
lost to atg kirwanka
win over legendary 3-20 fighter campy wampy
loss to ottke
loss to vanderpool
loss to sheika
huge comeback win over rowena bellbottom 9-23
loss to branco

then moved up to light heavy where he ressurected his career.

 

When are u guys gonna realise that Tarver is and always was nothing...he is a very lazy fighter and barely throws any punches. Ye he beat a shot Roy Jones..wow. Calzaghe would destroy him.

haters will always hate but Calzaghe beats anyone from 160-175.

 

Agreed. Tarver always was garbage, he made his name from knocking out a shot Jones and he barely beat Johnson. Calzaghe wouldnt lose a round against Tarver.

And to BustaLip or whatever the *** is called, Trinidad to KO Calzaghe Get real...

 

in relative terms of course joe calzaghe is an ATG,he holds 20 defences of a world title,holds an unbeaten record,has cleaned out an entire division and was the first man to unify the super mw division.

On these conditions alone he is already an ATG,all he needs to do now is beat a 'legend' in bhop(overrated bum beat by a b-level fighter) to cement his legacy as a two weight champion.In 20 years we will not remember who he beat or the 'bums' defeated,what we will remember is the first truly great 'true' super middleweight who unified a division and went unbeaten for near 20 years.

 

tarver is a good fighter , just not a great fighter.
styles make fights and against certain styles he shines against others he struggles.
he is 38 now and clearly in decline.
matched right he can still win but he has become very hesitant about who he wants to share a ring with and is clearly not really in love with the game anymore.

 

No disrespect taken.

My logic is not at all fueled by the fact that these fighters are American but by the notion that the best way to measure up to your contemporaries is to actually fight them. Again, I don't place the entire blame on Calzaghe for these fights not coming off.

That being said, it's not really a fair indictment on Calzaghe, either. Among his contemporaries (age wise) Calzaghe is the only one that is not visibly past his prime. All of the fighters I mentioned have seen better days and Calzaghe would draw more criticism than praise from his detractors if he beat them at this stage in their respective careers. If he lost to them, he would also be unfairly derided for losing to "old" fighters. Is it fair? Of course not. Legacy wise, Jones -who fought a higher caliber of competition than Calzaghe- also gets a similar raw deal. Both were indisputably talented fighters but their legacies will have as many "What ifs?" as actually weres.

 

Joe C is an undoubtedly an ATG at Super Middleweight, unfortunately this is a fairly new division so its impossible to rate him against anybody at 168lbs, Jones for me was the greatest 168lbs fighter but he didnt stay there long ..... Joe C and Hopkins are fairly similar, analysing they're resumes isnt gonna convince anybody that they are a main player in historical terms, there are way too many nobodies that they've fought, but it wasnt Hopkins fault that he reigned over the weakest middleweight division in history and had to take on welterweights for big paydays, and the same for Calzaghe, theres been nobody to take on over the years. Its a pretty similar story for Larry Holmes too although Larry for me is an undisputed ATG, but he didnt have much to take on in the early 80s .... Joe C and Hopkins did the best what they could do because the opposition wasnt there to cement they're legacys

 

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