Atg With Thinnest Resume Ever? Joe C

not an all time great. great accomplishments in the wins category, but until you fight several great fighters and win, you will never be considered an atg. he has beaten one good fighter; that's hardly a resume. the thing is, he should have fought roy jones, hopkins, tarver, winky wright, or any other notable fighter years ago. ducking the best out there should not be rewarded. when you are dominating the european competition for several years, you need to break out and fight the best in the world, wherever they may be from.

 

I am not at all discrediting your point. I think that JC has a very shoddy resume when it comes to opposition, but the Jeff Lacy in the Calzaghe fight is nothing like the one against manfredo

Lacy has endured an accident that will ultimately be the reason he can never exist as a top contender in any weight class. He cannot generate knock out power from his left shoulder do to a rotator cuff injury.
Joe executed the PERFECT gameplan against Lacy. I really don't think Jeff was even a 1 dimensional fighter, its just he didn't have speed or technical skill over calzaghe. I say lacy was a solid win for calzaghe and not to be compared to the sloppy lacy we just saw. But you are absolutely right! Calzaghe has ducked the best and doesn't deserve ATG or even P4P when based solely on resume.

 

I agree and disagree with so many things in this thread that i dont know where to start.

Joe is and will be universally recognized as both a HOF and an ATG when his time is up.

no he doesnt have the big Yank on the record but who excactly are these big name yanks at 168? Lacy is prob as big as they come at the time. Hopkins has never wanted to go near Joe (till recently aparently, the fight in theory could still happen), Jones was unified 175 champ when joe was defending and I dont even think Toney remembers the last time he was a super middleweight.

You can become all time great by domination alone, Joe has over 20 title defences, some say not all those defences was A class opoenents but go take a look at Hopkins 20 defences, there isnt a lot at all in there calibre of oponent.

joe hasnt had the big names of the past to beat, but he has been the best super middleweight ever in the last 10 years, the first undisputed/Ring champ at the weight.

Ask yourselves if you rank Ricardo Lopez, or Rocky Marciano, or Larry Holmes as all time greats...because if you do then why not joe Calzaghe...

And by the way JC hasnt finished yet, the title at 175 is still the ambition, and he could yet get Hopkins'/Taylors/Pavlik or even Erdei/Dawson or Woods on the resume before retirement comes along.

 

The myth that Calzaghe ducked Jones has already been scotched in this thread, so why repeat it again? We all know that Hopkins ducked Joe, not the other way round, so why repeat it again? Winky Wright was two weight divisions under SMW for most of the time Calzaghe has been champion and has never shown any interest in fighting Calzaghe. And why on earth is Tarver on this list??