ATG's and HOF fighters since 1980

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  1. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Very good list. Changes I'd make-

    Add to ATG- Salvador Sanchez. 100%. His 10 title fights all came in 1980-82.

    Drop from ATG to HOF- Tyson, Holyfield, and Lennox

    Raise from HOF to ATG- Ricardo Lopez

    Add to HOF- Genaro Hernandez, both Klitschko's, Ivan Calderon, Pongsaklek Wonjongkam, Nonito Donaire

    Call me crazy with listing Donaire, but I would gladly argue that he has accomplished more and is more deserving than many others listed.
     
  2. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    ^^ agree with most but why drop lewis and holyfield?
     
  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    ... I don't know. Either way, they are above the listed "HOF's" but below everyone else listed as fellow "ATG's," as well as Ricardo Lopez, for me.
     
  4. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    yeah the line between atg and hof is unclear really- when people consider atg most have top 50, some top 80 or more, but its up to the individual really
     
  5. Garrus

    Garrus Big Boss 1935-2014 Full Member

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    Lewis is an arguable top 5 HW.

    Holyfield top 10.

    Tyson as well.

    All ATG's.
     
  6. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I think of top 50, in which case not all of those listed under ATG's would be in my ATG list, clearly, but for the sake of the thread title...
     
  7. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    See, I have them like 10, 12, and 19. Sooooo...

    Whereas Ricardo Lopez is THE best 105 pounder (with a couple nice 108 fights). Calderon is the second best. Wonjongkam is a top 10 flyweight for sure. I know HW is usually the most or one of the most competitive divisions, but I try to not show glory division bias when possible.
     
  8. Garrus

    Garrus Big Boss 1935-2014 Full Member

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    Jesus Christ.

    Can you post your ATG HW list?
     
  9. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    MAB, morales, odlh are all atg. They have done much more than Pryor and more than jmm. Jmm has a win over pac but so does morales, except morales has much better overall resume.
     
  10. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Very good list..

    Hard to draw the line between ATG which is pretty much made up and Hall of famers.

    Edit.. ATG made up meaning subjective, I do believe there is a such thing.
     
  11. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Haha ok...

    Louis
    Ali
    Johnson
    Marciano
    Dempsey
    Foreman
    Holmes
    Jeffries
    Frazier
    Sullivan (if you count him)
    Lewis
    Tyson
    Wills
    Liston
    Charles
    Langford
    Holyfield
     
  12. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Absolutely no reason why Dempsey should be that high.